ManualRam wrote:DJRajX wrote:Also, Francis never wanted to be with the Grizzlies (remember when he got drafted?), and by that time it was over for him... nice try
francis didnt want to go to memphis because they're the grizzlies?? lol.
him pulling that stunt as a draftee had more to do with vancouver than it did with them being the grizzlies.
when a player is at a point of his career that francis was at when he was traded to MEM, he is in no position to be choosey. his CAREER was in jeopardy. at that point he just wasnt good enough.
also, what you said about marbury couldve easily been said about francis. he meshed with only one other player in his career and that was mobley, but that was mainly because they were a couple.
Fair point about the Vancouver location, I completely forgot about that issue... being in Memphis is obviously different... but you are mistaken, I didn't mean Francis chose not to go there because of the team name being the "Grizzlies", I never meant that... I just meant the "organization" (GM, Owner, burned bridge from the draft, fan-base, etc.), but obviously that's all different now since they are not in Vancouver anymore.
But yes, at that point Francis had no other option.
I disagree about Francis being a bad teammate and not meshing with anyone else, like Marbury was... Dwight Howard, Yao Ming, Tracy McGrady, Grant Hill, and many others have gone on record to say Steve Francis was a "great" teammate, who played with a lot of heart and passion. Francis actually played well with role players, and other star players [except Marbury, hmm go figure]... You don't hear the same sentiment about Marbury from anyone; plus Marbury is on a whole other level of "Crazy", he was just flat out a cancer to his team and organization as a PG... Francis had fire, emotion, and a competitive drive; and he got his teammates involved, even if he was turnover prone and mentally fragile. The same cannot be said for Marbury, he was blackhole of a "scoring" PG, his teams never won, and he had a lot of "issues" with personnel and "himself".
druggas wrote:Oh, I can read and comprehend. Just like you said, it wasn't Stevie's fault, it was Adelman's.
No one else wanted him either so it's their fault too?
Maybe, just maybe it was Stevie's fault. Think?
*buzzer* WRONG! (
never said it wasn't Steve's fault)Wow, you really can't read and comprehend, go back, re-read my last post. Then I suggest you "think?". I did admit it was Steve's fault. It was both the coach (Adleman) and Steve's fault (he was his own worst enemy at times). You're problem is that you assume too much, and you "read/interpreted" what "you wanted" to hear in your mind [btw, nice job picking and choosing quotes from my orignal post in your reply, and piecing them together in a fashion to make it sound like something it's not... maybe it's easier to just read my post from beginning to end as intended, and understanding the full context of what I was trying to say, instead of assuming "my intent and message" falsely]. Massive fail. Get off your delusional high-horse. There is no more to say to you. You have no other point to make, it's all ready been dealt with.
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