What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight?

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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#81 » by basic21 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:11 pm

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EscapoTHB wrote:Yeah but do you get past Chicago without Lebron. Noah/Asik matchup with Howard well, and Wade played horribly in that series.

I think Lebron is a big advantage against the Bulls. Especially when you are able to put him on Rose in the fourth quarters and shut Rose down.


of course they do..... do you even remember the rebounding numbers from game one?!?!


They shored up the rebounding with Haslem though. All the Heat have to do is plug in role playing bigs to solve what they miss in that area and they are fine. If you lose Lebron you are losing his perimeter defense, your second best rebounder, one of your best passers, and almost 28ppg.

The interior weaknesses of Miami are grossly overstated by the media, when in fact Miami had one of the best interior defenses in the league last season. And with Haslem back the rebounding isn't as big of an issue.

The reason they lost the finals wasn't because of them getting bossed in the middle. It was because Lebron played so far below his average that the Heat couldn't win. If he had just played a little below his averages, they would have swept the Mavs. The games were that close.

I just think for the most part the only ones who would do this trade are people who don't want the Heat to succeed and would like to see Lebron not win any titles. Most heat fans are fine with what we have and ready to start the season. Dwight Howard is really good, but he is a tad overrrated if people think he's worth Lebron.

I think it's hilarious that his value is either Bynum, Lopez....or Lebron...what name doesn't belong there lol

The most the Heat should ever offer to the Magic is Bosh. Lebron is overpaying for a guy who is walking anyways.


Wade = Rose

the only advantage the Bulls had in the series was their post defensive. put in Howard, that advantage drastically swings to the Heat. Lebron's defense on Rose is quickly replaced by Dwight's blocks on Rose. it is (Please Use More Appropriate Word) to even think that Dwight and Bosh woudn't dominate the Bulls even more. :roll:
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#82 » by Niko23 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:26 pm

LeBron is the better player but Howard is the better fit. Miami would never trade him though, unless he chokes again.......
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#83 » by bimmer100 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:31 pm

Lebron homers are the worst. I would trade for Dwight in a heart beat. Lebrons defense on Rose is overrated. When your playing 40+ minutes without a second star next to you, Rose was bound to be tired. He didn't look to attack the basket instead settled for jumpers.

The same goes with lebron, no body in this league can guard him. However if you put lets say Derek Fisher to guard lebron. But lebron settles for jump shots and misses all his shots. Are we going to praise Derek for his defense on lebron and call him a lock down defender?
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#84 » by Pimpwerx » Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:36 pm

Bron is the better player. You don't trade the best player in the world. Common sense is what's preventing such a stupid trade. Dwight didn't lift a bunch of scrubs to 60+ wins. Dwight...just not that impactful. Both Wade and Bron have done more with less. PEACE.
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#85 » by contract » Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:40 pm

Sinant wrote:Because this isn't 2k12. The Magic wouldn't do it...

Like hell they wouldn't. When they still believed Howard would re-sign, maybe they don't, but now that he's trying to force his way out of town, they would take Lebron and sacrifice every virgin in Orlando to the god of insanely good fortune.

Lebron keeps fannies in the seats, and keeps you this -----><----- close to being a contender year after year.

If you lose your superstar, and get Lebron back in a trade, you turn your life over to god like Tim Tebow.
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#86 » by Wone » Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:42 pm

Pimpwerx wrote:Bron is the better player. You don't trade the best player in the world. Common sense is what's preventing such a stupid trade. Dwight didn't lift a bunch of scrubs to 60+ wins. Dwight...just not that impactful. Both Wade and Bron have done more with less. PEACE.


i agree that bron is the better player but that bolded part is flat out wrong. Dwight on the heat would make them mroe balanced and better defensively. The reason? well because dwight is the best defender, and doesn't need the ball on offense. but heat would never do this to lebron. and i dont see why magic would make this trade either.
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#87 » by contract » Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:44 pm

Pimpwerx wrote:Bron is the better player. You don't trade the best player in the world. Common sense is what's preventing such a stupid trade. Dwight didn't lift a bunch of scrubs to 60+ wins. Dwight...just not that impactful. Both Wade and Bron have done more with less. PEACE.

It's not about who the better individual player is ... it's about the best fit. Wade + Howard would be more effective than Wade + Lebron.

James may be the "best player in the world", but Howard is the "best complement to Wade in the world".
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#88 » by ThatIshCray » Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:47 pm

Lol @ all this lebron is the greatest player in the world bs. He's not even the best player on his own team, and this is coming from a former lebron homer. How many years do we have to make excuses for him about why he shrunk in the playoffs and why he lost 3 years straight with home court advantage? At the end of the day you eventually have to admit that his style of play is great for stats but not necessarily the way the best player in the league plays. If I'm Miami I trade lebron for Howard in a heartbeat. We've seen what wade can do with even an over the hill dominant big man. We have yet to see lebron do anything substantial even when given a team that perfectly catered to his ball pounding, stat whoring style of basketball.
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#89 » by contract » Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:48 pm

Wone wrote:but heat would never do this to lebron.

If that's true, then I'd lose some respect for Pat Riley. He demands that his players do whatever it takes to win, so he should be prepared to do the same. Maybe he doesn't want to win like it's his last breath.
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#90 » by pass first » Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:54 pm

Pimpwerx wrote:Bron is the better player. You don't trade the best player in the world. Common sense is what's preventing such a stupid trade. Dwight didn't lift a bunch of scrubs to 60+ wins. Dwight...just not that impactful. Both Wade and Bron have done more with less. PEACE.

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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#91 » by contract » Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:56 pm

ThatIshCray wrote:Lol @ all this lebron is the greatest player in the world bs. He's not even the best player on his own team, and this is coming from a former lebron homer. How many years do we have to make excuses for him about why he shrunk in the playoffs and why he lost 3 years straight with home court advantage? At the end of the day you eventually have to admit that his style of play is great for stats but not necessarily the way the best player in the league plays.

That's a bit harsh, if not downright bitter on your part. Lebron is the best individual talent in the NBA ... but he hasn't yet mastered the art of maximizing the talents of his teammates.

Jordan wasn't very good at it either at first. Remember that up until now, Lebron has always been "the man" and absolutely dominant. Growing up and right up until he got to Miami, the best play for Lebron's team was always to toss him the ball and everyone else gets out of the way.
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#92 » by moximus » Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:02 pm

His dad, Delonte, stopped it
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#93 » by twix2500 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:04 pm

Because the Heat are going to win more championships with the core they have.
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#94 » by ThatIshCray » Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:23 pm

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ThatIshCray wrote:Lol @ all this lebron is the greatest player in the world bs. He's not even the best player on his own team, and this is coming from a former lebron homer. How many years do we have to make excuses for him about why he shrunk in the playoffs and why he lost 3 years straight with home court advantage? At the end of the day you eventually have to admit that his style of play is great for stats but not necessarily the way the best player in the league plays.

That's a bit harsh, if not downright bitter on your part. Lebron is the best individual talent in the NBA ... but he hasn't yet mastered the art of maximizing the talents of his teammates.

Jordan wasn't very good at it either at first. Remember that up until now, Lebron has always been "the man" and absolutely dominant. Growing up and right up until he got to Miami, the best play for Lebron's team was always to toss him the ball and everyone else gets out of the way.


That's not exactly unique to lebron. Every team with one superstar feels the best play is to give their guy the ball and get out the way. All I'm saying is is that I'm done being easily impressed by numbers and nice dunks. In 8 yrs lebron has shown nothing more than that for me to continuously heap on the praise that some people still recite no matter how he continuously let's them down and shows none of the intangible traits of the basketball god ppl have been saying he is since 17. At some point you have to actually make lebron show and prove why he was anointed from day one, and that doesn't happen when gullible clowns call him the best ever every year despite all evidence piling up to the contrary
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#95 » by 3gbrrrfkyt » Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:31 pm

I would rather keep Lebron then that always bitching & crying Dwight
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#96 » by Alpha9444 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:20 pm

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Alpha9444 wrote:Agree with everything except the bold. Bosh lives on his jumper, it's literally money

You know what literally means right?


Sorry no I don't I'm going to check the dictionary now... literally
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#97 » by Parataxis » Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:52 pm

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HereWeGoo wrote:You guys raise points that are all "ifs" and "buts." From a basketball perspective, this is the best trade for Miami. They get better and have an opportunity to compete for the 'ship.


The better trade would obviously be either Bosh or Wade for Dwight


Trading Bosh would be stupid. He's the one of the three that doesn't duplicate the rest of the skill set.
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#98 » by BSM » Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:54 pm

Well this thread is **** stupid.
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#99 » by nyc6 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:55 pm

stupid topic. Answer is because it's very mean and will hurt lebron's feelings and make him depressed. Yes with dwight they would win more rings, but players feelings comes before rings.
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Re: What's stopping Miami from trading Lebron for Dwight? 

Post#100 » by AmareNY » Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:59 pm

Heat fans crak me up, Howard is a much better fit with Wade then LeJudius. Heck he can he even cover up for RuPaul soft inside game.

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