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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#241 » by LakerLegend » Wed Apr 4, 2012 7:02 am

NBA? She couldnt compete against good high school players. Hows she going to guard a physical post player? She would get destroyed physically.
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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#242 » by Don Draper » Wed Apr 4, 2012 7:06 am

bstein14 wrote:I think if you took the USA women's dream team they would have a pretty good chance against some men's D1 teams... Obviously not your top tier teams like Kentucky or UNC but they could hold their own against teams from non major conferences.


I seriously doubt it (unless you mean the worst teams in D-1). On any given D1 team I would estimate that 50-80% of the players can dunk. How many women on the US national team can dunk? Of course dunking isn't the most important aspect, but it illustrates just how large the athletic gap is. Some of these women's best attributes (shot blocking, rebounding, quickness, etc.) would be completely negated playing against nearly every D-1 team.
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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#243 » by doctorfunk » Wed Apr 4, 2012 7:28 am

Don Draper wrote:I seriously doubt it (unless you mean the worst teams in D-1). On any given D1 team I would estimate that 50-80% of the players can dunk. How many women on the US national team can dunk? Of course dunking isn't the most important aspect, but it illustrates just how large the athletic gap is. Some of these women's best attributes (shot blocking, rebounding, quickness, etc.) would be completely negated playing against nearly every D-1 team.


LOL at 50% more like 90%+,
80% can dunk on my 4th league team in Europe

I doubt even US team could beat anyone in D-1, they could probably beat some teams in D-2 and perhaps 99,9% of HS teams(with the exception of teams like LBJ had), HS basketball sucks mostly they can't defend to save their lives and the ladies would run them out of the gym, trap and press; too easy. Not to mention US is perhaps only place where HS basketball has at all any good teams. In Europe HS basketball is generally bad, not to mention other places.
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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#244 » by BeanTownRockets » Wed Apr 4, 2012 7:44 am

bstein14 wrote:I think if you took the USA women's dream team they would have a pretty good chance against some men's D1 teams... Obviously not your top tier teams like Kentucky or UNC but they could hold their own against teams from non major conferences.


ummmmmmm.....No, dun think so.
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Post#245 » by noobcake » Wed Apr 4, 2012 7:46 am

Don Draper wrote:
bstein14 wrote:I think if you took the USA women's dream team they would have a pretty good chance against some men's D1 teams... Obviously not your top tier teams like Kentucky or UNC but they could hold their own against teams from non major conferences.


I seriously doubt it (unless you mean the worst teams in D-1). On any given D1 team I would estimate that 50-80% of the players can dunk. How many women on the US national team can dunk? Of course dunking isn't the most important aspect, but it illustrates just how large the athletic gap is. Some of these women's best attributes (shot blocking, rebounding, quickness, etc.) would be completely negated playing against nearly every D-1 team.


Wtf man, probably 1/20 division 1 player can't dunk.

So 95% can dunk.
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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#246 » by gethigh » Wed Apr 4, 2012 7:46 am

my thread gets locked and this one goes 17 pages asking the same question.
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Post#247 » by C-izMe » Wed Apr 4, 2012 7:55 am

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bstein14 wrote:I think if you took the USA women's dream team they would have a pretty good chance against some men's D1 teams... Obviously not your top tier teams like Kentucky or UNC but they could hold their own against teams from non major conferences.


ummmmmmm.....No, dun think so.

I go to Kennesaw State University right now. They have possibly the WORST team in D1 Basketball. 3-28 (0-18 in the Atlantic Sun Conference). The best thing they've ever done was upset Tech last year. That being said they could take the women's Olympic team to the wire. The best player Markeith Cummings would be the best player on the court easily.
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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#248 » by dc » Wed Apr 4, 2012 8:07 am

These threads should get locked by the 2nd page. Brittney Griner competing in the NBA or Serena Williams competing on the ATP tour, stuff like this. Just not realistic.

Brittney Griner would be riding the pine on a well below average college men's team.

There are plenty of 6'8" guys who are able to dunk and wouldn't get off the bench for a Division II or NAIA school. It's doubtful Brittney Griner is any better a player than such male players.

She dunked about what, 7 times in her entire career against COLLEGE WOMEN who are physically way, way inferior to her. Plenty of guys who are her height, way stronger, way more athletic and have dunked way more against COLLEGE MEN who couldn't come close to sniffing the NBA.
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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#249 » by reapaman » Wed Apr 4, 2012 8:09 am

Lots of people are talking about what a team of women would do versus a team of boy/men for whatever level but this is about one woman with the rest of the team being males. Yes the woman would be a defensive liability but so is like 50% of the nba.

The question is can they score in the nba. And while brittany griner wouldn't be able too at all, I think a point guard who's a really good shooter could. I see no reasons that maya moore for example couldn't do what derrick fisher is doing (or is not doing) or that she wouldn't be able to at least get a couple good shots off against someone like brandon jennings guarding her (who she actually weights more than). I think its possible even if unlikely.
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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#250 » by dc » Wed Apr 4, 2012 8:16 am

reapaman wrote:Lots of people are talking about what a team of women would do versus a team of boy/men for whatever level but this is about one woman with the rest of the team being males. Yes the woman would be a defensive liability but so is like 50% of the nba.

The question is can they score in the nba. And while brittany griner wouldn't be able too at all, I think a point guard who's a really good shooter could. I see no reasons that maya moore for example couldn't do what derrick fisher is doing (or is not doing) or that she wouldn't be able to at least get a couple good shots off against someone like brandon jennings guarding her (who she actually weights more than). I think its possible even if unlikely.


FWIW, there are plenty of high level women's college hoops programs who make it a habit of scrimmaging against men. And who are these men? Are they member's of the school's men's Bball team?

No, they generally scrimmage against male students on campus who play intramural hoops for fun. And when they play against each other, the males are either better or they hold their own against these female scholarship athletes.

We're talking about going against average sized white males who play pickup at the Y. These female athletes can't dominate them.

Fat chance they could keep up on either end of the floor against any D1 or D2 men's team who actually play for keeps.

The NBA? It's so far beyond the scope of any possibility that it's just ridiculous to even have these threads started.
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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#251 » by NOODLESTYLE » Wed Apr 4, 2012 8:42 am

She would have to go through the summer league at least to see if she could handle the competition.

If it came down to Sun Yue vs Brittney Griner, who you got?

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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#252 » by The Sebastian Express » Wed Apr 4, 2012 9:13 am

Ah, these threads always lead to great comments by the sexists. Where we see a woman referred to as a man, a hermaphrodite, see transphobic slurs, compare her (and now little people as well) to animals, question whether she is actually a woman with the always great, never old quotation marks, the forever elaborate tales of being in junior high and beating grown, professional women.

So refreshing to see clever, hip, and ever cutting edge comments such as those. Always a welcoming embrace for women who want to talk about basketball without the same old boring, unoriginal sexist comments they hear all day in their non-internet lives. (because a lack of women on sports board is not actually because there is a lack of women who want to talk about sports, think about that for a bit).


Though an actual genuine thank you to the men in this thread who actually discussed this topic without having to resort to the above problematic and sexist comments. It is appreciated.
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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#253 » by doctorfunk » Wed Apr 4, 2012 9:48 am

well Sebastian I think most important factor here is that women do not care that much for sports or internet fora for that matter
anyways another factor you'd want to consider in this debate is talent base
For every women in the world picking up basketball and trying to make her way to the pr0's
how many men you got; 500, 600, 700? That's another factor that makes women's basketball weaker in comparison.
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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#254 » by SpeedyG » Wed Apr 4, 2012 11:50 am

hollabackitsobi wrote:
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hollabackitsobi wrote:A WNBA All-Star team would lose 9 out of 10 times against Oak Hill Academy. The only reason they wouldn't struggle against just a typical high school boys' team is due to them probably just having better shooting.

WNBA All-Stars vs. a D-I college team would be a complete laugher. 30-40 point win. NBA? 50-60.

oh really?

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Yes, really. You definitely proved your point by showing me a video of a random pickup game between a multiple-time WNBA All-Star, Finals MVP, and WNBA champion and a backup PG in the NBA. Face it. Pick the BEST WNBA players of ALL TIME, no limitations, all in their primes, and they would get DESTROYED by the current Bobcats. No contest at all. Biyombo himself would put up 50/25 or something.


Not to mention that Telfair looks like he's in half-step mode. I mean look at those lazy reach-ins. He's horsing around.
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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#255 » by alb_mod » Wed Apr 4, 2012 12:23 pm

The Sebastian Express wrote:the forever elaborate tales of being in junior high and beating grown, professional women.


Well, if you want to prove the opposite and refuse the empirical evidences of the past, you are welcome

But are you tryn to do this or are you just whining cause the world dont spin in the way you want?

Simple question, lets choose TnF...how many hs really committed guys run 100m dash under 10.70 (you win every women event @ world class with this time)?
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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#256 » by Wile E. Coyote » Wed Apr 4, 2012 12:50 pm

dc wrote:FWIW, there are plenty of high level women's college hoops programs who make it a habit of scrimmaging against men. And who are these men? Are they member's of the school's men's Bball team?

No, they generally scrimmage against male students on campus who play intramural hoops for fun. And when they play against each other, the males are either better or they hold their own against these female scholarship athletes.

We're talking about going against average sized white males who play pickup at the Y. These female athletes can't dominate them.


Yep. My brother went to Purdue in the 90s/00s and played intramural hoops against some of the girls from the 1999 Purdue championship team. Even though he had never played organized basketball before that, he did quite well against the girls.
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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#257 » by Tave » Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:08 pm

That's a good observation. The women's team at Wake Forest posts a notice next to the student weight room every year at the start of basketball season requesting male students to help out in scrimmages.
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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#258 » by Altered_Beast » Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:14 pm

she plays and looks like bosh (or vice versa?)
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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#259 » by Sedale Threatt » Wed Apr 4, 2012 2:37 pm

This point has probably already been made 100 times in this thread, but hell no could she compete in the NBA. Not only is she undersized for an NBA big, her lack of strength, quickness and overall athleticism in comparison to NBA players would be staggering. She's get destroyed.
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Re: Do you think Brittney Griner can compete in the NBA? 

Post#260 » by FlashTheKilla » Wed Apr 4, 2012 3:06 pm

I think a female guard would have a much better chance of competing in the NBA than a female big. At least a guard could handle the ball and possibly hit a couple open shots off penetrations from other players. A big would just get eaten alive down low. Wouldn't have the strength or athleticism to accomplish anything down there.

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