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So, how is Derek 'leadership' Fisher doin'?

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Re: So, how is Derek 'leadership' Fisher doin'?

Postby hollabackitsobi on Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:58 am

Derek Fisher is 401st out of 466 players in the NBA in PER. That's pretty damn bad for a guy who was starting and who is a major rotation player on his new team. Look at the MPG of the other scrubs surrounding him. Every single one of them that plays ~20 MPG plays for the D-League Dakota...New Jersey Nets. And he's played by far the most games of any of his fellow scrubs.

Yeah, D-Fish aka Old Man River aka Mr. 5Ringz aka Mr. 0.4 is the worst player in the league.
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Re: So, how is Derek 'leadership' Fisher doin'?

Postby luckynumber17 on Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:00 am

hollabackitsobi wrote:Derek Fisher is 401st out of 466 players in the NBA in PER. That's pretty damn bad for a guy who was starting and who is a major rotation player on his new team. Look at the MPG of the other scrubs surrounding him. Every single one of them that plays ~20 MPG plays for the D-League Dakota...New Jersey Nets. And he's played by far the most games of any of his fellow scrubs.

Yeah, D-Fish aka Old Man River aka Mr. 5Ringz aka Mr. 0.4 is the worst player in the league.


Then yeah if you consider minutes played and being a starter he is the worst player in the league. But I was just saying technically he isn't THE worst player in the league because if you gave those scrubs the same minutes and being a starter I'm sure they will do worse.
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Re: So, how is Derek 'leadership' Fisher doin'?

Postby hollabackitsobi on Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:06 am

luckynumber17 wrote:
hollabackitsobi wrote:Derek Fisher is 401st out of 466 players in the NBA in PER. That's pretty damn bad for a guy who was starting and who is a major rotation player on his new team. Look at the MPG of the other scrubs surrounding him. Every single one of them that plays ~20 MPG plays for the D-League Dakota...New Jersey Nets. And he's played by far the most games of any of his fellow scrubs.

Yeah, D-Fish aka Old Man River aka Mr. 5Ringz aka Mr. 0.4 is the worst player in the league.


Then yeah if you consider minutes played and being a starter he is the worst player in the league. But I was just saying technically he isn't THE worst player in the league because if you gave those scrubs the same minutes and being a starter I'm sure they will do worse.


I see what you mean, yeah, but I don't know. Fisher literally does nothing...
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Re: So, how is Derek 'leadership' Fisher doin'?

Postby luckynumber17 on Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:09 am

hollabackitsobi wrote:
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hollabackitsobi wrote:Derek Fisher is 401st out of 466 players in the NBA in PER. That's pretty damn bad for a guy who was starting and who is a major rotation player on his new team. Look at the MPG of the other scrubs surrounding him. Every single one of them that plays ~20 MPG plays for the D-League Dakota...New Jersey Nets. And he's played by far the most games of any of his fellow scrubs.

Yeah, D-Fish aka Old Man River aka Mr. 5Ringz aka Mr. 0.4 is the worst player in the league.


Then yeah if you consider minutes played and being a starter he is the worst player in the league. But I was just saying technically he isn't THE worst player in the league because if you gave those scrubs the same minutes and being a starter I'm sure they will do worse.


I see what you mean, yeah, but I don't know. Fisher literally does nothing...


He's just there to give pep talks when the Thunder needs it most.
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Re: So, how is Derek 'leadership' Fisher doin'?

Postby mysticbb on Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:43 am

hollabackitsobi wrote:Yeah, D-Fish aka Old Man River aka Mr. 5Ringz aka Mr. 0.4 is the worst player in the league.


He also seems to be the "luckiest" player in the league. In 204 minutes with him on the court, the Thunder scored 68 more points than their opponents, that makes +16 per 48 minutes. In 286 minutes without Fisher on the court (since he joined) the Thunder scored 17 points more than their opponents or +2.9 per 48 minutes. Overall, without Fisher on the court this season the Thunder are +5.4 per 48 minutes over 2504 minutes. No idea what Fisher does on the court, but he seems to help his team in terms of outscoring their opponents.
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Re: So, how is Derek 'leadership' Fisher doin'?

Postby alb_mod on Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:54 am

LeDouche wrote:
alb_mod wrote:How can you state the impact of intangibles if you cant measure intangibles in first place?


One does not simply measure intangibles.


So how can you evaluate theyr impact and state player X brings more intangibles than player Y if you cant measure them?
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Re: So, how is Derek 'leadership' Fisher doin'?

Postby FTB on Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:52 am

and yet Iverson is rotting in oblivion while d-fish started and has never put up something worth mentioning...
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Re: So, how is Derek 'leadership' Fisher doin'?

Postby Donald Kaufman on Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:52 am

He sucks. Buy into the "championship pedigree" if you're that way inclined, me, I know he's a product of a system. Now that he's away from that system, he's exposed as what he is: trash.
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Re: So, how is Derek 'leadership' Fisher doin'?

Postby INKtastic on Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:22 am

Lakers with Fisher: 27-16 - .628
Lakers without Fisher: 8-6 - .571

Thunder without Fisher: 34-12 - .708
Thunder with Fisher 7-3 - .700

The Thunder were only looking for leadership. The Lakers supposedly got a major upgrade.
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Re: So, how is Derek 'leadership' Fisher doin'?

Postby Dat Pass on Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:46 am

JustAwesome wrote:It saddens me to see Lakers fans turning on Fisher simply because he's not with the franchise any more. Ask Bryant how valuable Fisher has been to the franchise.


Magic Johnson was a savior for LA.. doesnt mean I want him playing for the Lakers right now.

Fisher shouldve retired 3 years ago.
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Re: So, how is Derek 'leadership' Fisher doin'?

Postby druggas on Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:51 am

Bunch of hate from people who don't know the game.
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Re: So, how is Derek 'leadership' Fisher doin'?

Postby LApwnd on Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:33 am

Donald Kaufman wrote:He sucks. Buy into the "championship pedigree" if you're that way inclined, me, I know he's a product of a system. Now that he's away from that system, he's exposed as what he is: trash.


not TRASH, servicable and when he signed with GSW years ago everybody saw that he wasn't a PG and not a good SG either. He is product of the system and all his clutch shots came mostly due to him getting tourched on the other end. He had flashes of good games, like gm 5 of 2010 final and his most memerable playoff stretch was 2000-2001 where he shots lights out from 3's.
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Re: So, how is Derek 'leadership' Fisher doin'?

Postby Dat Pass on Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:35 am

INKtastic wrote:Lakers with Fisher: 27-16 - .628
Lakers without Fisher: 8-6 - .571

Thunder without Fisher: 34-12 - .708
Thunder with Fisher 7-3 - .700

The Thunder were only looking for leadership. The Lakers supposedly got a major upgrade.


If Kobe doesnt miss that game Saturday and the Lakers beat the Suns, then their record without Fisher would go to 9-5 (.642).. Your using WAY too small of a sample size.
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Re: So, how is Derek 'leadership' Fisher doin'?

Postby chyau.00 on Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:48 am

you see PER

i see 5 rings.
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Re: So, how is Derek 'leadership' Fisher doin'?

Postby big_ticket on Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:23 am

LionOfLannister wrote:Dude was never good. Luckiest career in the league.


lol yeah right,
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