Ray Allen: Players Should Be Paid in the Olympics

[otwok]

Mind boggling. I completely don't understand the idea of getting paid for participating in Olympics. Sure if you win medals than you get paid. Olympics are an extraordinary event that only happens every 4 years - you get the chance to compete with the best athletes in the world and spend a few weeks living the Olympic dream. What's the most important you get the chance to represent your country - you can't put a price on that. Maybe it's a cultural thing ( I'm from Lithuania) but I don't think any of our athletes would even think about asking for a payment - that's just nonsense. Completely unthinkable.

Yea it's called nationalism. Just here in America they disguise the word at Patriotism. Same thing.

Patriotism, nationalism - doesn't matter how you call it. The fact is that every athletes dream is to participate and represent their country in Olympics. At least in Lithuania and I believe most other world countries. Not so sure about USA now given their basketball players view on this...

So then nobody should be paid from the olympics right? Not the vendors, not the guy selling hot dogs, not the referees, not the committee. There should be no tickets solds. It should all be free. The people doing the labor that brings production wants to the some of the profit and they are told to walk. It's a business.

[ChuckTaylors310]

So then nobody should be paid from the olympics right? Not the vendors, not the guy selling hot dogs, not the referees, not the committee. There should be no tickets solds. It should all be free. The people doing the labor that brings production wants to the some of the profit and they are told to walk. It's a business.

nooooo. that hot dog salesman should be honored to represent his country and provide a service in which he does do not get paid for doing. /greenfont

[[GR]]

Ray's career is defined by his NBA championship, not his Gold Medal. The Olympics are a glorified corporate event, under the guise of "patriotic competitiveness." NBA players should just not go.

[The Real Dalic]

So then nobody should be paid from the olympics right? Not the vendors, not the guy selling hot dogs, not the referees, not the committee. There should be no tickets solds. It should all be free. The people doing the labor that brings production wants to the some of the profit and they are told to walk. It's a business.

nooooo. that hot dog salesman should be honored to represent his country and provide a service in which he does do not get paid for doing. /greenfont

Wow is all I have to say.

[Hambone93]

The crux of the matter is this.

Money is being made from the olympics, it is going to someone, whether it be the hotdog guy or whoever. Everybody involved in olympic basketball is making money EXCEPT for the players.

How the hell is that fair?

Don't give me "oh they should do it for their country!", if that's the case then lets make that idea consistent. The olympics should be free, all of it. The stadiums should be used for free, the tickets should be free, it should be televised for free. Everything, and people should go along with this "for their country"

It so damn hypocritical. Players see everybody around them making money off of people wanting to watch THEM play, but when they ask for a cut of the money people call them greedy and say they should be honored to be exploited for their country.

[Hambone93]

Yeah, there's so many players that donate money to charity.... they don't go party every night, or, buy sharks for their house. they also don't buy the most expensive cars, jewelery, and clothes. they definitely spend their money wisely.

Why is the onus on the players to donate money? Anyone who has disposable income has the ability to donate regardless of what class they came from. And you're out of your mind if you think businessmen spend money wisely.

You completely took the part I quoted out. he said that a "rich ass businessman" would not donate to charity. so, I fired back with that reply. the fact is we don't know what they do with there money.

Plus the fact that we don't ever see the faces of these businessmen. so, even if they did do a lot of good with there money, we wouldn't know about it. meanwhile, these players are on TV constantly and the media likes to bring up what they do for there community. no one is following the businessmen around.

Once again, completely missed my point. But you reveal something interesting about your argument.

You concede that there is money being made, but think that it should all go to everyone but the players? you think that whatever businessman is making money off this event deserves it more than the players?

Basically you support billionaires over millionaires, is what you're saying.

Great, gotcha.

[The Real Dalic]

The crux of the matter is this.

Money is being made from the olympics, it is going to someone, whether it be the hotdog guy or whoever. Everybody involved in olympic basketball is making money EXCEPT for the players.

How the hell is that fair?

Don't give me "oh they should do it for their country!", if that's the case then lets make that idea consistent. The olympics should be free, all of it. The stadiums should be used for free, the tickets should be free, it should be televised for free. Everything, and people should go along with this "for their country"

It so damn hypocritical. Players see everybody around them making money off of people wanting to watch THEM play, but when they ask for a cut of the money people call them greedy and say they should be honored to be exploited for their country.

The players get $10,000 don't they? that's more than enough to do something that's optional and for your country...

[Hambone93]

The crux of the matter is this.

Money is being made from the olympics, it is going to someone, whether it be the hotdog guy or whoever. Everybody involved in olympic basketball is making money EXCEPT for the players.

How the hell is that fair?

Don't give me "oh they should do it for their country!", if that's the case then lets make that idea consistent. The olympics should be free, all of it. The stadiums should be used for free, the tickets should be free, it should be televised for free. Everything, and people should go along with this "for their country"

It so damn hypocritical. Players see everybody around them making money off of people wanting to watch THEM play, but when they ask for a cut of the money people call them greedy and say they should be honored to be exploited for their country.

The players get $10,000 don't they? that's more than enough to do something that's optional and for your country...

What about getting paid what they are worth?

NOBODY ELSE IS DOING A DAMN THING SIMPLY FOR THEIR COUNTRY.

Everyone else expects to get paid, why doesn't this extend to the players?

You are going to have to explain why it's fair that everyone else gets paid while the people doing the actual work get nothing. Please, tell me why that's okay.

[The Real Dalic]

Once again, completely missed my point. But you reveal something interesting about your argument.

I don't care what your entire point was. I was just talking about that one part that I put in bold.

You concede that there is money being made, but think that it should all go to everyone but the players? you think that whatever businessman is making money off this event deserves it more than the players?

Basically you support billionaires over millionaires, is what you're saying.

Great, gotcha.

No, I honestly don't care who gets the money. I don't care who gets richer. my problem is that it's not about the honor of playing for your country anymore. it's not about beating the best in the world to be the best in the world anymore. it's about fricking money.... that's gets tiresome....

[The Real Dalic]

The crux of the matter is this.

Money is being made from the olympics, it is going to someone, whether it be the hotdog guy or whoever. Everybody involved in olympic basketball is making money EXCEPT for the players.

How the hell is that fair?

Don't give me "oh they should do it for their country!", if that's the case then lets make that idea consistent. The olympics should be free, all of it. The stadiums should be used for free, the tickets should be free, it should be televised for free. Everything, and people should go along with this "for their country"

It so damn hypocritical. Players see everybody around them making money off of people wanting to watch THEM play, but when they ask for a cut of the money people call them greedy and say they should be honored to be exploited for their country.

The players get $10,000 don't they? that's more than enough to do something that's optional and for your country...

What about getting paid what they are worth?

NOBODY ELSE IS DOING A DAMN THING SIMPLY FOR THEIR COUNTRY.

Everyone else expects to get paid, why doesn't this extend to the players?

You are going to have to explain why it's fair that everyone else gets paid while the people doing the actual work get nothing. Please, tell me why that's okay.

The solution is actually quite simple... don't show up. if you feel like you're not getting what you deserve for dribbling a basketball than don't go. it's really that simple. and the players that want to play for their country can go.

[Hambone93]

Once again, completely missed my point. But you reveal something interesting about your argument.

I don't care what your entire point was. I was just talking about that one part that I put in bold.

You concede that there is money being made, but think that it should all go to everyone but the players? you think that whatever businessman is making money off this event deserves it more than the players?

Basically you support billionaires over millionaires, is what you're saying.

Great, gotcha.

No, I honestly don't care who gets the money. I don't care who gets richer. my problem is that it's not about the honor of playing for your country anymore. it's not about beating the best in the world to be the best in the world anymore. it's about fricking money.... that's gets tiresome....

If the players were demanding that the olympics become a business simply so they can get paid, then sure, you'd have a point. But it's already a business, and the players are being exploited.

If tomorrow the olympic comitee came out and said "everybody's working for free! it's all for their countries and national pride! the olympics are officially non-profit!" then I'd completely agree with you. But they won't.

Again, the crux of the matter is that there is money being made, mostly due to the players, so they should get a cut. That was my point, the one you missed.

[The Real Dalic]

Also, our soldiers don't ask for anything to do what they do.... and what they do is, you know, actually important.

[Raptor_Claw]

Ray Allen is yet another example of an extremely selfish and greedy person.

[Hambone93]

The players get $10,000 don't they? that's more than enough to do something that's optional and for your country...

What about getting paid what they are worth?

NOBODY ELSE IS DOING A DAMN THING SIMPLY FOR THEIR COUNTRY.

Everyone else expects to get paid, why doesn't this extend to the players?

You are going to have to explain why it's fair that everyone else gets paid while the people doing the actual work get nothing. Please, tell me why that's okay.

The solution is actually quite simple... don't show up. if you feel like you're not getting what you deserve for dribbling a basketball than don't go. it's really that simple. and the players that want to play for their country can go.

If professional players didn't go, nobody in the US would care about olympic basketball. Until we lost the gold that is.

But pro players will go. Even if it is exploitative, because they want to be part of team USA. It's still wrong though, and it doesn't change the fact that they should be paid.

[The Real Dalic]

I'm done with this thread for now. good debate Hambone.