The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread

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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1321 » by Bskey » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:54 am

Sik Infant wrote:
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Cro_Ruption wrote:his team got smashed though


So what? It's ROY, not MVP.


Portland fan?


Well, I'm a Portland fan. Lillard is playing great, really great. MKG and Davis are too though. Drummond even, in limited minutes has been awesome. This should be a great ROY race, but honestly I don't see anyone beating Davis unless he stinks it up for a month or two.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1322 » by Sik Infant » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:54 am

Ettorefm wrote:Anthony Davis has NO flaws, it's ridiculous.
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28/11 on 10-14 FG and 8-9 from the line, not to mention terrific defense


Yeah he might still have a chance to catch Lillard.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1323 » by Sik Infant » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:55 am

@Bskey

I thought Cro_Ruption must be a PDX fan.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1324 » by Bskey » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:58 am

Sik Infant wrote:@Bskey

I thought Cro_Ruption must be a PDX fan.


He is as far as I know, I don't mind people being a bit homerish, every fan is whether they admit it or not but trying to act like Davis wasn't great because his team lost is just...yeah.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1325 » by NO-KG-AI » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:56 am

Davis needs to develop a bit as a playmaker. It's good how he works for now, because he has been keeping his turnovers pretty low by looking to attack quickly and not fool around with the ball.

We'll see. The way Davis is rebounding and playing defense, it's going to take someone outscoring him significantly to take ROY from him, and that doesn't look likely at this point.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1326 » by B-easy » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:59 am

Davis, is the front runner. No one can argue with that.
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Post#1327 » by LeChosen1 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:02 am

B-easy wrote:Davis, is the front runner. No one can argue with that.

Damian Lillard can
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Post#1328 » by B-easy » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:14 am

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B-easy wrote:Davis, is the front runner. No one can argue with that.

Damian Lillard can

Lillard is second to Davis IMO.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1329 » by Sik Infant » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:33 am

B-easy wrote:
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B-easy wrote:Davis, is the front runner. No one can argue with that.

Damian Lillard can

Lillard is second to Davis IMO.


Don't forget about Kidd-Gilchrist, he has also been amazing so far.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1330 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:14 am

Portland fan. Lillard has convinced me he's legit, as likely to be a cold blooded clutch player as any young guy besides maybe Irving. He has had a bigger effect making the Blazers look decent than even Aldridge has had, the kid is a winner and makes everyone look better.

None the less, I have kept saying ROY is the Davis' to lose. If he doesn't stink it up, at worst they will co-ROY, but my intuition says the #1 pick will get it if push comes to shove.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1331 » by Shem » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:46 am

I agree that Anthony Davis has a great shot at winning the ROY. And even though I'm a Portland fan and love Lillard, it wouldn't shock me if Davis wins the ROY. What has set Davis back was his the missed games due to injury. That's why he hasn't been on anybody's radar lately.

And again, even though I'm high on Lillard, I believe at this time from what I know, Davis is the long term better investment. But I still hope Lillard somehow wins the ROY! :D
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1332 » by B-easy » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:16 am

Sik Infant wrote:Don't forget about Kidd-Gilchrist, he has also been amazing so far.

Yeah, best defender in the draft. And elite slashing ability.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1333 » by Sik Infant » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:24 am

It's crazy to think that Gilchrist is most probably the best defender in a draft involving Davis...
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1334 » by ManualRam » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:48 am

Sik Infant wrote:It's crazy to think that Gilchrist is most probably the best defender in a draft involving Davis...

not really. MKG was more physically ready to defend his position. davis is still a 220 lb PF, who's also playing some C.

also, check these numbers out.

overall PPP against- .94
FG% against- 44%
%scored against- 40.9%


overall PPP against- .85
FG% against- 35.4%
%scored against- 37.2%

one of them is MKG. the other is ....harrison barnes
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1335 » by NY2TheBay » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:06 am

Barnes is starting to pick up steam and he'll get a lot of run with rush out for the year. What he did against a good defender in kirilenko was impressive, has a nice stretch of games he's stringing together.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1336 » by princeofpalace » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:59 am

Sik Infant wrote:It's crazy to think that Gilchrist is most probably the best defender in a draft involving Davis...


Drummond is actually looking like the best and most impactful defender
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1337 » by Choker » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:09 pm

princeofpalace wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:It's crazy to think that Gilchrist is most probably the best defender in a draft involving Davis...


Drummond is actually looking like the best and most impactful defender


Valanciunas would have had a word with you two....if it wasn't for Bargnani making him look bad defensively.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1338 » by princeofpalace » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:32 pm

Choker wrote:
princeofpalace wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:It's crazy to think that Gilchrist is most probably the best defender in a draft involving Davis...


Drummond is actually looking like the best and most impactful defender


Valanciunas would have had a word with you two....if it wasn't for Bargnani making him look bad defensively.


Ive seen Jonas V play, he's good defensively but Drummond is noticeable better. But, I agree that Jonas V is also a more impactful defender than MGK. Kidd-Gilchrist will likely be the best perimeter defender from the draft, but certainly a defensive bigman is more valuable than a defensive wing.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1339 » by TwentyOne920 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:20 pm

Drummond's the best defensive-oriented big from this class. Davis has the capability to be a force on both ends so him being labeled as merely a defensive big didn't do him justice.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread 

Post#1340 » by boogie-reke » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:21 pm

Ettorefm wrote:not to mention terrific defense


I don't see it.

I think he's actually looking lost quite often defensively, and quite a few baskets are directly on him.

Not writing him off at all obviously, he's a rookie big and as such those are common mistakes to make and he showed when he knows where to be etc he's an absolute force - not to mention his weight that's keeping him from staying balanced through contact and making him pushed under the rim more often.

But he is not playing anything close to terrific defense yet, and i've watched 80% of his games so far - especially in PNR situations when he hedges too much and doesn't return in time, or when he roams too much out of his position and giving open jumpers - but also in the post where again he's pushing under the rim far too easily giving a high % shot.
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