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Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:40 am
by Jvaughn
Hardcore6erFan wrote:He is a top 5 point guard. Only dudes above him for sure are Chris Paul, Westbrook, Rose, and Parker.
And Williams, Curry, Rondo, Lawson, and Irving. The others may be arguable, but there's no way you can rank him above those 5.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:42 am
by Edrees
He'll always be better than Liliard for his defense IMO. I think Holiday will be a perennial all star, but not a superstar.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:37 am
by karkinos
top 10
he has to get out of philly to a better team with a better coach to get to the elite top 5 level.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:43 am
by seorang
mattg wrote:He turns the ball over way too much to be a top 5 PG(and no, not every one of his turnovers is the result of seeing plays develop differently than teammates). His handle isn't as tight as it could be, he gets caught passing in the air too much, and gets stripped on traffic too often. Still, he's a really nice prospect, he's just not as good as the sixers fans tend to think he is right now.
This.He leads the league in TOs FFS. Consecutive games with 8 TOs
Who does he think he is? Jeremy Lin?
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:55 am
by CB-Blazer
I Love PA wrote:All-star for many years. All the hype surround Lillard but Jrue is the same age and lead his team to multiple playoff appearances.
Experience means much more than age does.
I think Holiday is always going to be one of those guys who puts up very solid stats but isn't flashy or known enough to make all star games.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:08 am
by Baddy Chuck
Mookie Blaylock
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:20 am
by tosi
Turn over king
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:56 am
by Stat Padder
19/4/8.5/1.8 on 48 %
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:57 pm
by tmacattack33
He will probably hover around just outside the top 5 PG's at during his prime.
And since the league is pg heavy right now, that means he can be a top 25 player still. Or maybe even top 20.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:34 pm
by nykballa2k4
All these guards in the NBA can score. Let's see him share the ball a bit better. Top 15 IMO currently and depending on your flavor he will linger between 8 and 15 for his career.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:16 pm
by reignfire
Golabki wrote:Beard wrote:He's solidified himself now as a top ten PG in the league, IMO.
As for the future, like you said he is still young, so I can see him making several all star games over the course of his career. The future looks bright for this young pup.
Not sure about top ten
I'd rather have...
Paul
Rose
Westbrook extremely low BBIQ
Parker
Williams
Nash old, no defense
Conley no offense, no playmaking ability
Curry no defense, injury prone, no playmaking
Rondo
Lawson small, liabilty other than scoring
Irving
Rubio no offense
I think right not Holiday is a solid starter on par with Hill, Jennings, Teague, Collison (Lin and Wall are wild cards)... obviously he's younger that a lot of these guys.
I think Holiday WILL be a solid top 10 PG, but right now he's more in the 10-20 range.
I take Holiday over the bolded. Holiday is decent at everything. A bunch of PGs you listed have a bunch of glaring flaws that is easily exploited.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:41 pm
by Darain
Rubio has no offense?
Holiday is better than Westbrook seriously?
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:43 pm
by Tron Carter
Yeah, I'm not taking Holiday over Westbrook.
I put him in the same class as Rubio and Lawson.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:48 pm
by DanTown8587
While they're not the same body type, I'm saying Mike Bibby in terms of style of play. And I think it's a struggle for Holiday to make the ASG considering the quality at the position. He's clearly outside the top 4 in his own conference (Rose, Irving, Rondo, Williams).
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:29 pm
by HurricaneKid
Have you seen what Brandon Jennings did to him last night? 33 pts, 8 asst, 5 reb, 4 stl, 2 bl on 57%. IN JRUE's HOUSE. Sorry, I'm not seeing what you guys are seeing. Last year at least he was a terrible shooter but a good defender. Now he just wants to get his.
Better than Westbrook? GTFO. NOW.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:38 pm
by SoulInTheHole7
Holiday is overrated as all Hell.
Lillard has far more upside.
Holiday better than Westbrook? LMFAOOOOOO!
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:55 pm
by YouthMovement
Holiday over Deron is laughable
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:04 pm
by rafale
Sorry but he is not even a top 10 PG at the moment, he is a good defender, but he isn't some gary payton shutdown defender, and offensively, he is averaging 18 pts at 54% ts with 8,8 asts and 5 TOs ...
That's above average production, but that's certainly not all-star production.
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:06 pm
by Durant Durant
Darain wrote:Rubio has no offense?
Holiday is better than Westbrook seriously?
Rubio and Holiday are both overrated
Re: What is Jrue Holiday's peak?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:10 pm
by SoulInTheHole7
YouthMovement wrote:Holiday over Deron is laughable
That's like saying Batum is better than Melo.