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twix2500 wrote:If Lebron went to NY and Melo to Miami, Melo would have a trophy and Lebron would not.
Tiesto_Lakers wrote:The more I watch basketball, the more I realize that Kobe, in his absolute prime (2006-2008), was a top 2 player of all-time, only second to Jordan.
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reignfire wrote:Golabki wrote:Beard wrote:He's solidified himself now as a top ten PG in the league, IMO.
As for the future, like you said he is still young, so I can see him making several all star games over the course of his career. The future looks bright for this young pup.
Not sure about top ten
I'd rather have...
Westbrook extremely low BBIQ
Nash old, no defense
Conley no offense, no playmaking ability
Curry no defense, injury prone, no playmaking
Lawson small, liabilty other than scoring
Rubio no offense
I think right not Holiday is a solid starter on par with Hill, Jennings, Teague, Collison (Lin and Wall are wild cards)... obviously he's younger that a lot of these guys.
I think Holiday WILL be a solid top 10 PG, but right now he's more in the 10-20 range.
I take Holiday over the bolded. Holiday is decent at everything. A bunch of PGs you listed have a bunch of glaring flaws that is easily exploited.
That's good for you, but 30/30 GM's would call you insane. No matter what flaws Westbrook has, if he was handicapped or semi-retarded, if he can do what he does on the court every night and you're team is winning, you have absolutely no reason to even consider picking Holiday over him.
Westbrook is a better player then Holiday, plain and simple, and it's not even close.
It's not like Holiday is heralded as the greatest shooter, nor is he the smartest person on the floor. He makes mistakes, bone-headed plays too.
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Irving was going And 1 on him, and Holiday held his own... Probably a top 3 defender of PGs at the moment...
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More reliance on him this season and he should enjoy that.
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holiday is sick on defense... PG's in today's NBA are going to score especailly with the PnR... its about limiting them as best you can... brandon jennings was going insane that night making everything... that wasnt a lack of D from holiday
iguodala called holiday the best defensive PG in the league and one of the best defenders period...
his turnovers have been down the last 3 games and will continue to come down..
he's shooting 45% from 3... and thats not a fluke he was about 40% last year IIRC
putting guys like curry and lawson and rubio ect ect around his level is a joke... those guys dont know what defense is
i think you also have to put holiday above irving right now as a PG... irving is a great scorer and will keep getting better, but as far as a PG right now he's not where holiday is
holiday is literally carrying us every game right now... someone posted a stat... hes 4th in assists per game yet as a team we are like 27th and 29th in scoring and in FG%....
just think about that for a minute... 4th in assists in the nba on a team that is horrible on offense and shooting horrible right now... and now low post threat at all
that makes it all the more impressive
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