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Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher

Postby East_Coast on Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:39 am

Major Tom wrote:He ' isnt top 5 in minutes played' is the key son. His usage rate is among the lowest. How do you expect Linsanity type numbers if youre just another player?

Oh, I get it now. If Lin were only used more, his shooting % would jump up to maybe.... 38%?
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Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher

Postby Major Tom on Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:41 am

East_Coast wrote:
Major Tom wrote:He ' isnt top 5 in minutes played' is the key son. His usage rate is among the lowest. How do you expect Linsanity type numbers if youre just another player?

Oh, I get it now. If Lin were only used more, his shooting % would jump up to maybe.... 38%?

Maybe. You tell me. You have a knack at making 'educated' guesses with box scores anyways.
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hayden wrote:oh no, Lin had a good game. WHAT NOW? IM SO CONFUSED


Now would be a good time to say its preseason.
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Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher

Postby sirdeadcat on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:39 am

East_Coast wrote:
Major Tom wrote:He ' isnt top 5 in minutes played' is the key son. His usage rate is among the lowest. How do you expect Linsanity type numbers if youre just another player?

Oh, I get it now. If Lin were only used more, his shooting % would jump up to maybe.... 38%?


I wonder what Rondo or earlier career Kidd's shooting % would look like if they are asked to exclusively spot up for 3s.
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Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher

Postby East_Coast on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:48 am

sirdeadcat wrote:
East_Coast wrote:
Major Tom wrote:He ' isnt top 5 in minutes played' is the key son. His usage rate is among the lowest. How do you expect Linsanity type numbers if youre just another player?

Oh, I get it now. If Lin were only used more, his shooting % would jump up to maybe.... 38%?


I wonder what Rondo or earlier career Kidd's shooting % would look like if they are asked to exclusively spot up for 3s.

It would really make you look smarter if you didn't mention Lin in a direct comparison with either Rondo or Kidd.
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Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher

Postby sirdeadcat on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:49 am

East_Coast wrote:It would really make you look smarter if you didn't mention Lin in a direct comparison with either Rondo or Kidd.


Do you know what direct comparison means?
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Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher

Postby DRK on Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:59 pm

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You must be high.


AMONG PGs. Cant u read??


I can read perfectly well thank you very much.

I still think your opinion is ridiculous though.

Please present some evidence to support your theory that Jeremy LIn is "Top 5 Amoung Pg's in other things."
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Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher

Postby Major Tom on Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:27 pm

DRK wrote:
Major Tom wrote:
DRK wrote:
You must be high.


AMONG PGs. Cant u read??


I can read perfectly well thank you very much.

I still think your opinion is ridiculous though.

Please present some evidence to support your theory that Jeremy LIn is "Top 5 Amoung Pg's in other things."


Do it yourself! Casuals smh

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics
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Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher

Postby DRK on Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:41 pm

Stas =/= skill level.

That may be hard for you to believe.

Stats tell you how many a ssists a person gets, but is no means an accurate measure of how skilled their passing is.

By way of stats, Serge Ibaka is the best post defender in the league. But actually, what it doesnt show is that Ibaka is a average post defender, and just a great weak-side shot blocker.


And where are the stats that show you how good a playe is at ball handling?

This aint a video game where they have grades like A, or A- for each player's skill level.
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Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher

Postby Major Tom on Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:46 pm

DRK wrote:Stas =/= skill level.

That may be hard for you to believe.

Stats tell you how many a ssists a person gets, but is no means an accurate measure of how skilled theit passing is.

SBy way of stats, Serge Ibaka is the best post defender in the league. But actually, what it doesnt show is that Ibaka is a average post defender, and just a great weak-side shot blocker.


And where are the stats that show you how good a playe is at ball handling?

This aint a video game where they have grades like A, or A- for each player's skill level.


Lol. Changing your tone eh. Figure it out yourself. Im done with u hater
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Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher

Postby DRK on Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:49 pm

By "figure it out yourself" you mean you have "no evidence to prove your ridiculous statement."

I thought so.
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Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher

Postby Krodis on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:46 pm

Lin can't score.
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Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher

Postby frothbrain on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:51 pm

I have no dog in this race, but I would take Dragic over Lin without hesitation.
Lin is lacking in the fundamentals that Dragic acquired as Nash's understudy.
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Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher

Postby LakerFanMan on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:51 pm

Deja Vu....

It's amazing how people jump all over Lin on either side of the fence. The guy shows a lot of promise, give him time to improve his game.
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Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher

Postby NiqtheAntiq on Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:51 pm

Lin will stick in the league, similar to Antonio Daniels and Jon Barry type players who gm's realized weren't star players but could be a productive spark plug who gives u 25 mpg with energy and scoring off the bench.

My honest opinion is he will do better next season with the Rockets once they full gel. My guess is the Rockets need a pure PG starting with Harden like a Norris Cole or Roddy Bedboius type contract on the cheap and have Lin playing the backup 1 and 2 spots as sixth man still getting quality minutes. That would be his best role. Lin is honestly a 6-7 mill production combo guard getting a star level pg contract which was silly to begin with.

Also Ty Lawson is playing pretty bad this season but no one seems to talk about him. He has more talent and time with his team than Lin does.
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Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher

Postby biglove44 on Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:03 am

NiqtheAntiq wrote:My honest opinion is he will do better next season with the Rockets once they full gel. My guess is the Rockets need a pure PG starting with Harden like a Norris Cole type contract on the cheap and have Lin playing the backup 1 and 2 spots as sixth man still getting quality minutes. That would be his best role. Lin is honestly a 6-7 mill level production combo guard getting a star level player contract which was silly to begin with.

Also Ty Lawson is playing pretty bad this season but no one seems to talk about him........


Willful ignorance. You should look things up before you state them as fact. He's making an average, starting PG salary (3/25). These are the 2011-12 stats for PG's who will make around the $8M range this year.

Player: Points / Assists / Rebounds / Steals / 3PT%
Mike Conley: 12.7 / 6.5 / 2.5 / 2.2 / .377
George Hill: 9.6 / 2.9 / 3.0 / 0.8 / .367
Devin Harris: 11.3 / 5.0 / 1.8 / 1.0 / .362
Jameer Nelson: 11.9 / 5.7 / 3.2 / 0.7 / .377
Goran Dragic: 11.7 / 5.3 / 2.5 / 1.3 / .337
Mo Williams: 13.2 / 3.1 / 1.9 / 1 / .389

He is not getting a star level player contract. Where the h.ell do people get their information?! I do agree that Ty Lawson is having a rough start to the year.
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