Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
Moderators: ken6199, Dirk, bisme37, KingDavid, bwgood77, zimpy27, cupcakesnake, Domejandro, infinite11285, Harry Garris
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
-
- Banned User
- Posts: 3,592
- And1: 665
- Joined: Mar 01, 2012
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
Jeremy's upside is like Tony Allen now...
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
-
- Starter
- Posts: 2,082
- And1: 972
- Joined: Mar 30, 2011
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
Major Tom wrote:And oh Lin >>> Chalmers and Cole
LOL No.
Preemptively joining the Bucks and Twolves bandwagons.
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
- martypython
- Bench Warmer
- Posts: 1,317
- And1: 252
- Joined: Jun 24, 2010
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
Vides990 wrote:Major Tom wrote:And oh Lin >>> Chalmers and Cole
LOL No.
Above average point guard who's only weakness is perimeter shooting vs a role player and poor man's JET, the lol should be the other way around.
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
-
- Forum Mod - Clippers
- Posts: 47,537
- And1: 29,164
- Joined: Jun 23, 2004
- Location: NBA Fan
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
ElectricPicture wrote:reignfire wrote:It looks like Daryl Morey didn't bother telling Mchale why Lin was so successful last year. And it wasn't by Lin standing at the corner 3 point line.
Daryl Morey was the one that desperately wanted Harden.
I do think Harden being extremely ball-dominant is why Lin hasn't been maximized so far this season. Harden can't move without the ball like the way a Rip Hamilton/Ray Allen can. He should too because he is a good shooter and a much better shooter than Lin is.
I honestly think a large part of why OKC was so bad at ball-movement last year was because of Harden. He made Westbrook play without the ball more and that was why Westbrook had a huge drop in assists from like 8 a game to like 5.
Harden's game is too simplistic. He needs more variety.
Do you think Westbrook having the ball in his hands more makes them better at ball movement though?
It seems like they basically replaced Harden having the ball in his hands with Westbrook and Durant doing it more, not with better ball movement. The only funny thing was the random posters arguing that Harden is better for OKC because he moves without the ball and is better off the ball than Kevin Martin, that was interesting.
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
- M4P
- Analyst
- Posts: 3,408
- And1: 1,640
- Joined: Aug 29, 2008
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
Someone said it earlier but just to reiterate, Lin is overthinking and afraid to step on toes whenever he plays. He had a clear lane to the hoop when the Rockets were down 1 but decided to jack up an airball...
$8m a year is still market price for someone of Lin's caliber however so no regrets here. His skillset is the complete opposite of Fisher's so idk what the OP was thinking with his comparison.
$8m a year is still market price for someone of Lin's caliber however so no regrets here. His skillset is the complete opposite of Fisher's so idk what the OP was thinking with his comparison.
HoopsMalone wrote:Shaq would still have value... But to think he'd be anywhere near as dominant as he was in the post era is just ridiculous
jahlil okafor has some of the best post moves in the last 30 years and the dude can't even get on the floor
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
- El Alonzo scowl
- Veteran
- Posts: 2,520
- And1: 5,438
- Joined: Feb 19, 2010
- Location: Wade County
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
He was always Derek Fisher, the obnoxious media and delusional Knick fans turned him into something he wasn't because of one of little hot streak.
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
- madmaxmedia
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,806
- And1: 6,744
- Joined: Jun 22, 2001
- Location: SoCal
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
I think the Rockets were expecting more than 12 and 6.5 with 37% FG. If that's what he is, no his salary is not going to sink the team. But you can find better bargains for average players, pretty sure Houston thought they were getting more.
That being said, it's only been 7 games. And 1 air ball doesn't sink a career, just as 2 great weeks doesn't make one either.
That being said, it's only been 7 games. And 1 air ball doesn't sink a career, just as 2 great weeks doesn't make one either.
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
- prophet_of_rage
- RealGM
- Posts: 16,876
- And1: 6,653
- Joined: Jan 06, 2005
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
RutgersBJJ wrote:carlquincy wrote:RutgersBJJ wrote:Parsons deserves some blame too. Having a career game and you have an open look from the corner 3 and you turn it down to pass it to someone who has been a terrible perimeter shooter his entire life outside of a 2 week period.
WTF. That was a great read by Parsons. Lin was wide open.
Rockets really had a bad close to the game.
1) Poor rotation by the big man to allow Lebron a easy layup to take the lead.
2) Air ball by Lin
3) Unable to secure the rebound after a FT miss by Wade
4) Harden dribbles down the clock to shoot a contented, last second 3-pter
A wide open look by a bad shooter is still a terrible shot. It was a dumb pass by Parsons.
You think Kobe ever passes to Metta in that situation?
See the 2010 championship Game 7.
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
- JellosJigglin
- RealGM
- Posts: 15,408
- And1: 9,400
- Joined: Jul 14, 2004
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
Fisher was a good role player in his prime, so I don't understand the hate. Obviously Lin is expected to be more than a role player, so I understand the frustration there. Plus Fisher's contract when he signed with GS is almost in line with Lin's contract.
RIP BASKETBALL REASONS (DEC 8TH 2011 - OCT 11TH 2020)
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
- prophet_of_rage
- RealGM
- Posts: 16,876
- And1: 6,653
- Joined: Jan 06, 2005
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
DLaren wrote:dunleavyjr wrote:Maybe Lin's games with the Knicks last season was a fluke. Rockets need to stop the bleeding. Sometimes I feel like Harden is like a Carmelo Anthony, causing a distraction to Lin's game. I don't know...
Maybe?
Is the new narritive going to be to blame Lin's star teammate(s) for his ineffectiveness?
This is getting ridiculous. Now Harden is the problem with Lin's game? Who was the problem when Lin was getting cut from teams left and right? Then Carmelo was the problem, but Lin couldn't run a pick and roll with Amar'e, at the time the best pick and roll player in the league. Now he's in houston and when he was by himself he couldn't do anything. Now Harden is there and he's holding down Lin's game? Really?
the airball isn't that big a deal but it is symbolic of a kid that just is okay. Not special.
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
- mj23foreva
- Sophomore
- Posts: 237
- And1: 43
- Joined: Dec 25, 2011
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
madmaxmedia wrote:I think the Rockets were expecting more than 12 and 6.5 with 37% FG. If that's what he is, no his salary is not going to sink the team. But you can find better bargains for average players, pretty sure Houston thought they were getting more.
That being said, it's only been 7 games. And 1 air ball doesn't sink a career, just as 2 great weeks doesn't make one either.
Statistically in fantasy basketball he is ranked top 50 in a 9 category league. That means he is playing a great all around game well worth the salary. He only needs to up his FG% and obviously with that comes more points and he will be top 25 player in the league. And in Lin's case he does a lot more than what the stat sheet shows. Hes in good shape well worth what hes making.
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
- inquisitive
- RealGM
- Posts: 17,068
- And1: 2,844
- Joined: Aug 27, 2010
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
it's early boys...still early
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
- Kampuchea
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,562
- And1: 8,212
- Joined: Oct 20, 2010
- Location: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
he is a bad fit with Harden. Still a decent PG though
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
- prophet_of_rage
- RealGM
- Posts: 16,876
- And1: 6,653
- Joined: Jan 06, 2005
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
Lin's impact is looking Jose Calderon'ish. Okay starter, great backup but forced to play over their heads. There will be great moments and horrendous moments and they will not lead their team anywhere.
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 15,740
- And1: 3,129
- Joined: Jun 27, 2006
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
nhh90 wrote:Edrees wrote:I think he means derek fisher in his prime
Derek Fisher never was a good defender. A career 107 drtg shows this
people just associate flopping and a few charge taking as good defense.
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
-
- Senior
- Posts: 738
- And1: 222
- Joined: Mar 04, 2012
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
Houston needs to fire their coaches. What are they doing? Lin isn't Steve Novak. If they want their starting PG to pass the ball to Harden and camp at the 3, then they might as well start Toney Douglas and let Lin play and create for the bench, who can barely score.
This roster is a poor fit. Asik isn't a PnR finisher. It's a waste of Harden's and Lin's strengths not to have a good PnR big on the team.
I also don't understand why they can't set better screens for Harden and Lin.
This roster is a poor fit. Asik isn't a PnR finisher. It's a waste of Harden's and Lin's strengths not to have a good PnR big on the team.
I also don't understand why they can't set better screens for Harden and Lin.
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
- madmaxmedia
- RealGM
- Posts: 11,806
- And1: 6,744
- Joined: Jun 22, 2001
- Location: SoCal
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
prophet_of_rage wrote:the airball isn't that big a deal but it is symbolic of a kid that just is okay. Not special.
It was the absolute opposite of that game-winning shot in Toronto, wasn't it?
I'm totally rooting for him, but if it turns out he is an average PG/good backup who had a magical run, then that's what it is- no shame in that.
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,256
- And1: 2,974
- Joined: Dec 02, 2006
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
You really shouldn't expect Lin to be a go to scorer because he isn't that kind of player.
He is a fundamental player who isn't that great athletically but he plays smart and if he can score 10ppg and average 7 assists per game I think he will be a solid signing for Houston.
I agree that Harden's ball hogging ways aren't conducive to ball movement but Houston doesn't exactly have a roster full of scorers.
He is a fundamental player who isn't that great athletically but he plays smart and if he can score 10ppg and average 7 assists per game I think he will be a solid signing for Houston.
I agree that Harden's ball hogging ways aren't conducive to ball movement but Houston doesn't exactly have a roster full of scorers.
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
-
- Junior
- Posts: 268
- And1: 4
- Joined: Jun 19, 2012
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
Fisher has made more clutch plays in the playoffs than Lin could imagine in a lifetime.
Stop disrespecting Fisher!
Stop disrespecting Fisher!
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
- BodieB
- Veteran
- Posts: 2,571
- And1: 3,340
- Joined: Mar 31, 2011
Re: Jeremy Lin has been turned into Derek Fisher
Lol at people trying to justify that airball. The man is a guard, if he can't make a WIDE open 3 he needs to be playing PF or C.