Are we witnessing Rondo's prime?

[Deathclutch23]

Sorry using some obscure stat won't change the fact that as Rondo goes the Celtics go. He is their best player and Celtics will go as far Rondo takes them.

Nash led some of the best offense, that's cool and stuff and he had an amazing career. But this is Rondo thread and he will lead Celtics in his own way.

[Lakersmylife]

Pau for Rondo. Do it Mitch.

[cnv2855]

Anyone who saw his 44pt performance against Miami game 2 last year, knows he's a top 2 PG.

He's got a godmode switch like Lebron James, and can definitely step up and score. When Pierce and Garnett are gone, we're going to see a new Rondo... and it's going to be undeniable how great he truly is.

[LEHGOCELTICS]

Jason Kidd actually played defense

smh...not sure if serious or not

[Krodis]

Anyone who saw his 44pt performance against Miami game 2 last year, knows he's a top 2 PG.

He's got a godmode switch like Lebron James, and can definitely step up and score. When Pierce and Garnett are gone, we're going to see a new Rondo... and it's going to be undeniable how great he truly is.

Yes, everyone who saw his entirely representative and not at all fluky sample size of one game where the Heat barely even bothered to guard him knows he can score.

[Deathclutch23]

Anyone who saw his 44pt performance against Miami game 2 last year, knows he's a top 2 PG.

He's got a godmode switch like Lebron James, and can definitely step up and score. When Pierce and Garnett are gone, we're going to see a new Rondo... and it's going to be undeniable how great he truly is.

Yes, everyone who saw his entirely representative and not at all fluky sample size of one game where the Heat barely even bothered to guard him knows he can score.

Fluke? He averaged near triple double against Bulls in 09, Rondo was the biggest factor in Celtic's historic run in 2010 playoffs, he dominated against Cavs and Magic, And he played great against Knicks in 2011 playoffs and stepped up his game again in '12 playoffs.

Rondo has been the best playoff performer on Celtics since '09 , and one of the best playoff players in general since that year.

[picc]

He's one of the few players in the league that actually amazes me. Don't even care that he's a Celtic. He's amazing.

2008 nobody knew who he was. Then he played a fantastic game in the closeout game against LA. Next year KG goes out and he's arguably the best player.

Next year after that, he's almost definitely the best player. In 2011 he does it again, but gets injured in the 2nd round. 2012 he's the best player again.

Now he's upped his game even more.

He's to PG's what Lebron is to forwards. He scores, makes the plays, rebounds, and can guard 1-3. Wtf? And he's an a--hole. Which is what you want from your PG. One of the most competitive guys in the league.

Can't say enough good things.

[Clyde Frazier]

Sorry using some obscure stat won't change the fact that as Rondo goes the Celtics go. He is their best player and Celtics will go as far Rondo takes them.

Nash led some of the best offense, that's cool and stuff and he had an amazing career. But this is Rondo thread and he will lead Celtics in his own way.

Offensive rating is far from an obscure stat. It's pretty simple actually: points scored per 100 possessions.

[sunskerr]

Rondo is literally the only PG (not counting SG eligibility) whom I have on my fantasy team and he is doing just fine.

Can't say the same for the rest of my players but since I drafted him I've been introduced to one of the most exciting players in the NBA and now I can enjoy Celtics' games even as a Suns fan.

[CKRT]

Sorry using some obscure stat won't change the fact that as Rondo goes the Celtics go. He is their best player and Celtics will go as far Rondo takes them.

Nash led some of the best offense, that's cool and stuff and he had an amazing career. But this is Rondo thread and he will lead Celtics in his own way.

Actually, the Celtics have gone how KG has gone. You think the Celtics have relied on Rondo's offensive anchor capabilities?


and to the guy who deleted his post because he probably looked up how bad Nash's Suns OREB% really was, let's post the results for everyone, yeah?

05 Suns: 27.5% (22nd) 114 ORTG (1st)
06 Suns: 22.1% (30th) 111.5 ORTG (2nd)
07 Suns: 22.7% (29th) 113.9 ORTG (1st)
08 Suns: 22.4% (29th) 113.3 ORTG (2nd)
09 Suns: 27.7% (14th) 113.6 ORTG (2nd)
10 Suns: 27.6% (10th) 115.3 ORTG (1st)
11 Suns: 23.7% (28th) 109.5 ORTG (9th)

For reference:
08 C's: 26.6% (18th) 110.2 ORTG (10th)
09 C's: 27.9% (8th) 110.5 ORTG (6th)
10 C's: 22.8% (28th) 107.7 ORTG (15th)
11 C's: 21.1% (30th) 106.2 ORTG (18th)
12: C's: 19.7% (30th) 101 ORTG (27th)

So the answer to your question (how many top offenses did Nash have with bottom 5 OREBs) is 4, with his 3 best coming in dead last or second to last. Next time just look up stuff before you post, instead of deleting it so you aren't proved wrong.

But yeah, the Celtics poor offensive rebounding is definitely not why the offense is so poor. Has much more to do with the Big 3 getting older/Rondo's increased role.

[Deathclutch23]

Sorry using some obscure stat won't change the fact that as Rondo goes the Celtics go. He is their best player and Celtics will go as far Rondo takes them.

Nash led some of the best offense, that's cool and stuff and he had an amazing career. But this is Rondo thread and he will lead Celtics in his own way.

Offensive rating is far from an obscure stat. It's pretty simple actually: points scored per 100 possessions.

Sorry i'm not a stats geek, there are some stats that carry weight but i take stats with a grain of salt. He is trying to imply that Rondo doesn't make lot of impact on offense for Celtics when it's far from truth.

I'm sure you can pull some stats that shows Rondo having negative impact during certain stretches or whatever or something akin to that but Celtics are clearly better offensively or Defensively when Rondo plays.

[KGboss]

He's one of the few players in the league that actually amazes me. Don't even care that he's a Celtic. He's amazing.

2008 nobody knew who he was. Then he played a fantastic game in the closeout game against LA. Next year KG goes out and he's arguably the best player.

Next year after that, he's almost definitely the best player. In 2011 he does it again, but gets injured in the 2nd round. 2012 he's the best player again.

Now he's upped his game even more.

He's to PG's what Lebron is to forwards. He scores, makes the plays, rebounds, and can guard 1-3. Wtf? And he's an a--hole. Which is what you want from your PG. One of the most competitive guys in the league.

Can't say enough good things.

I love this post.

At least there are a few who get it.

[AntwanBoldin]

He CAN guard, but he chooses not to.

[Deathclutch23]

Sorry using some obscure stat won't change the fact that as Rondo goes the Celtics go. He is their best player and Celtics will go as far Rondo takes them.

Nash led some of the best offense, that's cool and stuff and he had an amazing career. But this is Rondo thread and he will lead Celtics in his own way.

Actually, the Celtics have gone how KG has gone. You think the Celtics have relied on Rondo's offensive anchor capabilities?


and to the guy who deleted his post because he probably looked up how bad Nash's Suns OREB% really was, let's post the results for everyone, yeah?

05 Suns: 27.5% (22nd) 114 ORTG (1st)
06 Suns: 22.1% (30th) 111.5 ORTG (2nd)
07 Suns: 22.7% (29th) 113.9 ORTG (1st)
08 Suns: 22.4% (29th) 113.3 ORTG (2nd)
09 Suns: 27.7% (14th) 113.6 ORTG (2nd)
10 Suns: 27.6% (10th) 115.3 ORTG (1st)
11 Suns: 23.7% (28th) 109.5 ORTG (9th)

For reference:
08 C's: 26.6% (18th) 110.2 ORTG (10th)
09 C's: 27.9% (8th) 110.5 ORTG (6th)
10 C's: 22.8% (28th) 107.7 ORTG (15th)
11 C's: 21.1% (30th) 106.2 ORTG (18th)
12: C's: 19.7% (30th) 101 ORTG (27th)

So the answer to your question (how many top offenses did Nash have with bottom 5 OREBs) is 4, with his 3 best coming in dead last or second to last. Next time just look up stuff before you post, instead of deleting it so you aren't proved wrong.

But yeah, the Celtics poor offensive rebounding is definitely not why the offense is so poor. Has much more to do with the Big 3 getting older/Rondo's increased role.

Was that aimed at me? I haven't posted anything about OREB. I just said stop talking about Nash in Rondo thread.

[CKRT]

Sorry using some obscure stat won't change the fact that as Rondo goes the Celtics go. He is their best player and Celtics will go as far Rondo takes them.

Nash led some of the best offense, that's cool and stuff and he had an amazing career. But this is Rondo thread and he will lead Celtics in his own way.

Actually, the Celtics have gone how KG has gone. You think the Celtics have relied on Rondo's offensive anchor capabilities?


and to the guy who deleted his post because he probably looked up how bad Nash's Suns OREB% really was, let's post the results for everyone, yeah?

05 Suns: 27.5% (22nd) 114 ORTG (1st)
06 Suns: 22.1% (30th) 111.5 ORTG (2nd)
07 Suns: 22.7% (29th) 113.9 ORTG (1st)
08 Suns: 22.4% (29th) 113.3 ORTG (2nd)
09 Suns: 27.7% (14th) 113.6 ORTG (2nd)
10 Suns: 27.6% (10th) 115.3 ORTG (1st)
11 Suns: 23.7% (28th) 109.5 ORTG (9th)

For reference:
08 C's: 26.6% (18th) 110.2 ORTG (10th)
09 C's: 27.9% (8th) 110.5 ORTG (6th)
10 C's: 22.8% (28th) 107.7 ORTG (15th)
11 C's: 21.1% (30th) 106.2 ORTG (18th)
12: C's: 19.7% (30th) 101 ORTG (27th)

So the answer to your question (how many top offenses did Nash have with bottom 5 OREBs) is 4, with his 3 best coming in dead last or second to last. Next time just look up stuff before you post, instead of deleting it so you aren't proved wrong.

But yeah, the Celtics poor offensive rebounding is definitely not why the offense is so poor. Has much more to do with the Big 3 getting older/Rondo's increased role.

Was that aimed at me? I haven't posted anything about OREB. I just said stop talking about Nash in Rondo thread.

Nope, some guy posted before your post that was after mine, saying something to the effect of "how many of Nash's offenses had bottom 5 offensive rebounding? I'll wait."

[83SixersRocked]

We'd better be, otherwise Father Time enters the room next.

[Deathclutch23]

We'd better be, otherwise Father Time enters the room next.

Rondo's game isn't athleticism based anyway so father time will be late barring major injury.

[blackstar]

Jason Kidd actually played defense

smh...not sure if serious or not

You must be pretty young if you don't remember the defensive beast that Kidd was in his prime. But then again, looking at your username, I'm not surprised.

[Deathclutch23]

Jason Kidd actually played defense

smh...not sure if serious or not

You must be pretty young if you don't remember the defensive beast that Kidd was in his prime. But then again, looking at your username, I'm not surprised.

That's his reaction to guy saying Rondo doesn't play defense.

[Crooked-I]

What is with all these crazy stats. ORTG? wtf is that. What happened to the days where you would watch someone on the court and know they were bad m'fer. Now you got all these nerdy pocket protecting kids trying to push PER, win shares, and ORTG(still don't know what that is and don't want to know) down your throat. I don't need some stupid stat to tell me Rondo is playing out of his mind right now and is just going to get better and better.