Front-runner for Most Improved Player?

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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#16 » by -Kees- » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:36 am

Harden, Batum, Asik or Larry Sanders (last year 3.6 / 3.1 with 1.5B, this year 9.4 / 8.3 with 2.4B, arguably Bucks best big man)
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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#17 » by Basti » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:02 pm

Not that I think he's a top candidate anyway but would Kirilenko be eligible?
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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#18 » by bledredwine » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:07 pm

I think that most of these players haven't improved as much as they've gotten more minutes.

But in terms of actual improvement, it's got to be Kemba.
And I'm an Asik homer

After that, I'd say Serge, and although he has the same skill set, I swear what I've seen from JR Smith is completely different than the past: the dude is actually playing smart. It's weird.

I always liked his game, now I'm pissed he's not a Bull.
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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#19 » by Fischella » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:24 pm

Basti wrote:Not that I think he's a top candidate anyway but would Kirilenko be eligible?

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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#20 » by Basti » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:29 pm

Fischella wrote:
Basti wrote:Not that I think he's a top candidate anyway but would Kirilenko be eligible?

:crazy:


Eligible as in disregard the one season he was playing overseas. As I said, he's not a (top) candidate, at best a honorable mention, if you disregard that one season in Russia. I just wonder if, theoretically speaking, AK posted stats of, say, 16/7/5/2/2 that if he was eligible to be a candidate with one year away from the NBA.
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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#21 » by Prospect Dong » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:50 pm

Didn't AK47 win it once already, back when he was with the Jazz?

I think my pick, based on stats so far, would be Asik, just because I see it as an award for guys who come out of nowhere, rather than for guys like Harden, who go from good to great. But that's just a matter of taste...
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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#22 » by mrknowname » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:57 pm

what about Lance Stephenson? His shooting has really improved, .592 TS%, 49% from the field, and 45% from 3

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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#23 » by shnik » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:05 pm

He may not win MIP at the end of the season but it's weird you haven't mentioned Goran Dragic yet:
In my opinion he is a current candidate and I predict that he would remain one until the end of the season: from a rotation player with a potential in houston last season to a 1st option point guard and play maker in current year's phoenix that in my prediction will fight for a playoff place in the west until the end of the regular season.

last season's stats: 11.7 ppg 2.5 rpg 5.3 apg 1.3 spg 46.2% FG 33.7% 3P 80.5% FT in 26.5 mpg
This season's stats: 16.3 ppg 2.9 rpg 7.3 apg 2.0 spg 47.4% FG 34% 3P 71.2% FT in 33.5 mpg
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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#24 » by BadWolf » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:10 pm

Jrue is a serious candidate, up there with Mayo and Asik
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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#25 » by pr0wler » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:00 pm

Jamal Crawford

Over 20PPG in less than 30 MPG so far. Unreal.

This is the first off-season he said that he has actually worked on his game, maybe the hard work in the summer helped.
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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#26 » by crazybranman360 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:00 pm

how is DeAndre Jordan not on this list?
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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#27 » by bbms » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:54 pm

I like Goran Dragic's case.
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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#28 » by Major Tom » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:55 pm

Asik easy
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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#29 » by jami0528 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:20 pm

For now Mayo but lets see if his shooting streak will continue when dirk returns who will get majority of shots.
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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#30 » by jami0528 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:23 pm

pr0wler wrote:Jamal Crawford

Over 20PPG in less than 30 MPG so far. Unreal.

This is the first off-season he said that he has actually worked on his game, maybe the hard work in the summer helped.

Imagine if he already did this 8 years ago, he would have been a top 3 SG in todays game, but his defense is still quite a joke sometimes.

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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#31 » by TheUroborosWorm » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:01 pm

Asik is clearly the most improved till now... and by far, surprisingly improved drastically the freebies too...
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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#32 » by DoubleVision » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:03 pm

ROballer wrote:Some candidates

Omer Asik

Last season: 3.1 ppg 5.3 rpg 1.0 blk 50% FG 45% FT in 14.7 mpg
This season:11.1 ppg 13.2 rpg 1.2 blk 46% FG 73% FT in 33.3 mpg

James Harden

Last season:16.8 ppg 4.1 rpg 3.7 apg 1.0 spg 49%FG 39% 3P 84% FT in 31.4 mpg
This season:26.7 ppg 4.8.rpg 4.7 apg 1.6 spg 44%FG 26%3P 83%FT in 40.1 mpg

Nicolas Batum

Last season:13.9 ppg 4.6 rpg 1.4 apg 1.0 spg 1.0 bpg 45%FG 39%3P 83%FT in 30.4 mpg
This season:20.8 ppg 6.3 rpg 3.2 apg 2.3 spg 1.3 bpg 48%FG 39%3P 76%FT in 39.7 mpg

Jrue Holiday

Last season:13.5 ppg 3.3rpg 4.5apg 43%FG 38%3P 78%FT in 33.8 mpg
This season:19.1 ppg 4.0rpg 8.6apg 45%FG 45%3P 78%FT in 38.2 mpg

JJ Redick

Last season:11.6 ppg 2.3rpg 2.5 apg 0.4 spg 42%FG 42%3P 91%FT in 27.2 mpg
This season:15.8 ppg 2.3rpg 5.5 apg 0.8 spg 49%FG 39%3P 86%FT in 32.5 mpg

Glen Davis

Last season:9.3 ppg 5.4 rpg 0.8 apg 42%FG 68% FT in 23.4 mpg
This season:15.6 ppg 8.3 rpg 2.5 apg 43%FG 58%FT in 32.3 mpg

Al Farouq Aminu

Last season:6.0 ppg 4.7 rpg 1.0 apg 0.9 spg 0.5 bpg 41%FG 28% 3P 75%FT in 22.4 mpg
This season:12.0 ppg 8.1rpg 2.5apg 1.8 spg 1.1 bpg 50%FG 18% 3P 68%FT in 31.5 mpg

Kemba Walker

Last season:12.1 ppg 3.5 rpg 4.4 apg 0.9 spg 36%FG 30%3P 79%FT in 27.2 mpg
This season:18.8 ppg 3.9 rpg 5.5 apg 2.5 spg 42%FG 17%3P 86%FT in 36.6 mpg


Vucevic and E'Twaun Moore saw big improvements statistic wise from their rookie seasons but I don't know if they'll keep the current pace(especially Moore) so I didn't add them

Jordan and Ibaka score more(3 ppg Jordan ,5 ppg Ibaka),but are actually rebounding less and blocking shots at a similar rate as last year.

Mayo has a big improvement statistic wise from last year,but he had a big rookie season and I don't consider him necessarily most improved..he had it in him

Meanwhile,all the players I listed above are having by far,their best season, production wise

I agree that Mayo is sort of returning to his rookie game, but if he continues to average +50% from 3 (huge and unlikely if), he gets it. And Harden is fool's gold. He's getting more time and the offense goes through him now. He's scoring more, but much less efficiently. This isn't the "Most Used Player" award. He hasn't shown improvement if he's missing an extra 10% more of his shots.
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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#33 » by Subway Token » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:06 pm

Harden, JR Smith, Asik
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Post#34 » by TottiGOAT » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:13 pm

DeRozan and OJ
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Re: Front-runner for Most Improved Player? 

Post#35 » by Dupp » Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:21 pm

I like Batum and Mayo so far for this award. It's pretty wide open though, alot of good candidates.
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