Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams?

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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#31 » by Xsy » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:47 pm

BadWolf wrote:Dont firget about lat year, Thunder had an easier way to the finals and then Heat destroyed them.

I'm pretty sure every team in the league would rather go Knicks/Pacers/Celtics over Mavericks/Lakers/Spurs.
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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#32 » by Ginger Bean » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:54 pm

Tougher defense in the East. OKC wasn't used to it after rolling through to the finals.
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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#33 » by Jimmy Recard » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:36 pm

Of course they have an unfair advantage; they have LeBron and 29 other teams don't.
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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#34 » by CB-Blazer » Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:47 pm

When your the defending champs who are often picked to repeat, your schedule is going to be harder regardless of who you play for.

People gun for the teams at the top game in and game out.
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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#35 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:46 pm

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:This idea that you have to somehow "work harder" to beat better teams is ridiculous, because its based on the assumption that teams are only going 80% normally in the playoffs, which couldn't be further from the truth.

Its also dumb reasoning, based on who wins in the Finals. If the West team wins, instead of saying the West team was exhausted, you'd say the superior competition prepared them for any challenge they might face. See how that works?


It is naive to believe that going through the physical challenge of getting through the West does not pre-dispose a team to a greater injury risk.

IMO Heat are at a great advantage because, under the assumption that all contenders, by nature of that term, have a "fair" chance teamwise of winning a seven game series against the best teams. Therefore they only have one coin flip round as opposed to Lakers/Thunder, Spurs, Griz who have that coin flip EVERY round, therefore their odds of winning a ring each are impaired.
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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#36 » by BANGSKi » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:49 pm

I really think if the Heat were in the west TNT and espn would try to play two western conference games on wed, thur, and fri


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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#37 » by Froob » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:51 pm

I love how you guys act like the heat swept the east last playoffs. Knicks look pretty good I'll admit it. Celtics will come around for the playoffs. Bulls with Rose back with be a contender. The east is top heavy they aren't a joke.
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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#38 » by Xsy » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:55 pm

Froob wrote:I love how you guys act like the heat swept the east last playoffs. Knicks look pretty good I'll admit it. Celtics will come around for the playoffs. Bulls with Rose back with be a contender. The east is top heavy they aren't a joke.

Bosh, their one serviceable big man, was gone for a good chunk of the playoffs.
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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#39 » by ccvle » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:04 am

I dont believe it. you still have to beat the best team some where along the line to be a champion.
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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#40 » by Froob » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:13 am

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Froob wrote:I love how you guys act like the heat swept the east last playoffs. Knicks look pretty good I'll admit it. Celtics will come around for the playoffs. Bulls with Rose back with be a contender. The east is top heavy they aren't a joke.

Bosh, their one serviceable big man, was gone for a good chunk of the playoffs.

I believe the heat were in a tie game 7 with about 5 minutes to go. I may be wrong but, I doubt it. And Bosh wasn't the reason the heat won game 6.
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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#41 » by Tien » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:18 am

Strong playoff teams in East:

Boston
Chicago
Knicks
Indiana
Miami

All of these teams play / will play elite defense.

Other sleeper teams:

Brooklyn and Philly (with Bynum).

Just because Miami matches up well in the East doesn't mean its an "unfair" advantage.

If you put any contender team from the West in put them in the East, its no guarantee they'll make the finals.
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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#42 » by Young_Star11 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:35 am

Wouldn't say unfair but they do look to have an easier run to the Finals. Not their fault though.

Last year they were in a 2-1 hole against Indiana and were 3-2 down against Boston.
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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#43 » by narmerguy » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:29 am

Better question is, who cares? The outcome of the finals will most certainly not depend on this. The better team is going to win. And for the record, Miami probably had a harder run last year simply because they lost Bosh (who was still slightly injured when he recovered) and Wade was injured.

But like I said, who cares about that either? They won 4-1, clearly the better team won. People overthink this stuff.
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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#44 » by BizGilwalker » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:24 am

jami0528 wrote:1. It is not the Heat's fault they are in the East.

2. There is no cakewalk in this league. Whether you are in the east or west, you have to win 16 games in order to win.

3. Injuries can change everything.

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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#45 » by Knicker23 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:49 am

Of course they have an advantage. The Heat can pretty much coast to the 1 or 2 seed. But that is far from "unfair" or in their control. Any more than they control the 76ers and Pacers being bad.

And I'd be hesitant to call it an "advantage" -- constantly playing more competitive talent in the west will probably serve them better, whoever it is, come championship, than the team that never really had to assert itself or see what their made of, be reshapped etc --- not that I think that will be the case for the Heat..

I suppose it can have real benefits in being able to rest players etc... But the Heat would be a top team no matter what conference..... Your idea is more relevant to the boarder line playoff teams in the west that would be sure things in the east. That's more impacting.
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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#46 » by ROballer » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:03 am

I_Socrates wrote:
ROballer wrote:
BadWolf wrote:Dont firget about lat year, Thunder had an easier way to the finals and then Heat destroyed them.


Mavs(defending champs) -Lakers-Spurs easier way than Knicks-Pacers-Celtics?

Seriously ?:roll: :roll:


Yeah, other than the Knicks getting steamrolled, the other 2 were great series vs. the Pacers and C's.
Meanwhile OKC beat everyone out West quite easily, other than the SA series, I don't think there was ever a question whether they'd make it to the Finals (EARLY in the Dallas series, but after deflating them in the first 2 games, it wasn't a question).

OKC definitely had the easier way to the Finals however you'd like to dice it. Maybe they were too good (and came down to earth in the Finals), maybe their competition was off (definitely the case with the Mavs/Lakers) but their series were quick and easy meanwhile Miami nearly got knocked out more than once (and should have been had the ref's not awarded them games vs. the C's).


Ok,they had the easier way in the sense that they beat their opponents more convincingly....but c'mon
the level of competition they faced was higher...props to them for making a statement and winning clearly
The fact that Miami beat Boston 4-3 does not make Boston(crippled by injuries btw) a juggernaut,on the contrary

I'd bet serious money that the Lakers reach the finals if they'd play the Knicks/Pacers and Celtics last year....and everybody knew they were a 2nd round team at best in the west(can't compete with OKC and Spurs)
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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#47 » by Edrees » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:37 am

It's an advantage but not an unfair advantage because they aren't breaking any rules or anything that's just life
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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#48 » by rcontador » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:44 am

I_Socrates wrote:OKC definitely had the easier way to the Finals however you'd like to dice it.


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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#49 » by TheGarden » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:47 am

jami0528 wrote:
[GR] wrote:Miami might just be a weaker team than last year's.

hmm. not so sure if serious :wink:


when you look at how they're playing you'd know its true

Miami is still pretty damn good but I think last year's team was better
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Re: Do the Heat have an unfair advantage over Western teams? 

Post#50 » by jym85 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:39 am

Not a huge difference between conferences anymore

Really started to even out the past couple years

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