Bskey wrote:Blkbrd671 wrote:idk, but when you have Tyson Chandler at the top of any offensive statistical ratings list, imo doesn't really hold a lot of weight
It certainly needs to be put into context. Drummond is NOT a top 10 offensive player, not even close.
That however is a good indication that he's succeeding where he needs to atm.
The thing is I think you guys are just defining great offensive players in terms of their individual scoring talent, like its streetball. This rating system is based on what impact players have on the team offense as a whole, which is actually a more accurate way to rank players, imo.
For instance, I think they give credit to players who get offensive rebounds that lead to pts for their team, even if they techincally didn't score or make the assist. But that offensive rebound was crucial to getting those pts. So they rightfully give some credit to that player too. And thats likely how players like Drummond and Chandler are rated as top offensive players because of their offensive rebounds, as well as all their dunks.
If we're talking about ranking the top 10 offensive players that would win a 1 on 1 tournament, then no Drummond or Chandler would not be on that list. But if we're talking about biggest impact players to a TEAM offense, which is really how offensive players should be judged, then I think this rating system is valid.
Take Chandler off the Knicks, taking away the bulk of their offensive rebs, and see how many pts NY scores when they only get 1 shot per posession. So technically he is a top offensive player if he's having that much impact on a teams offense. He may never win a 1 on 1 tournament like Carmelo, but NBA is a team game.
"Offensive Rating" is a statistic used in basketball to measure an individual player's efficiency at producing points for the offense. It was created by author and statistician Dean Oliver.
For players, the formula is: Offensive Rating = (Points Produced / Individual Possessions) x 100
Points can be produced through field goals, free throws, assists, and offensive rebounds. Individual possessions are the sum of a player's scoring possessions (field goals, free throws, plus partial credit for assists), missed field goals and free throws that the defense rebounds, and turnovers.