The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II

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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1216 » by Wizenheimer » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:34 pm

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I'm just saying Jimmer was guarding him in the 4th and the Kings seemed to not have adjusted to guarding the pick and roll with him.
Dude hes averaging 17ppg on 46/37/87 with 2 assists and 2 rebounds a game halfway through his 3rd month as a pro. It wasn't just because Jimmer was on him in the 4th.


you're exaggerating by using a smaller sample size that makes him look a lot better then he has been:

* he is actually averaging 14.8 points - 2.4 rebs - 3.2 assists - 2.0 turnovers

* he's shooting .385 on FG's and .331 on three's, and he is only averaging 14.8 points on 14.4 FG attempts

* he has a PER of 12.8 and a TS% of .471

* he has an offensive rating of 98 on a team that has an offensive rating of 103. And he has a defensive rating of 111 on a team that has a defensive rating of 109. In other words, he performs worse on both ends of the floor then the team that has the 2nd worst record in the entire league.

If these were season long numbers for any player other then a rookie, he'd be considered a low efficiency chucker who plays bad defense

and just using the 'he's-playing-better-now' argument in a thread comparing rookies isn't saying much. Most rookies tend to play better as they adjust to the league
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1217 » by mcfly1204 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:20 pm

...except for those that hit the rookie wall
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1218 » by Choker » Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:37 pm

TheOUTLAW wrote:He didn't score them all in the 4th quarter. Not even a majority


But I also didn't single out Jimmer. The Kings allowed Waiters to split the defense a lot of times in that video alone. That's a big failure to making adjustments.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1219 » by boogie-reke » Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:31 pm

We should have had Tyreke checking him throughout the game, but that's too much for Coach Smart I guess to figure out he needs one of his best perimeter defenders on a the other teams best scorer.

Surely when Tyreke goes perfect from the field and has a great game, that's exactly the time to bench him and forget he exists. Solid coaching right there.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1220 » by ChosenSavior » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:30 am

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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1221 » by Hero » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:09 am

Well Beal sure has stepped it up. He is looking like the best wing from this year's draft.
bena2005 wrote:I see Bargnani stepping his game up at an all-star status. He's probably going to become the main focus on the team once bosh leave and will show what he's capable of,
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1222 » by JungleCat022 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:31 am

Waiters: 5 points, 4 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 block off the bench

Zeller: 11 points, 9 rebounds, 2 blocks
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Post#1223 » by Illmatic21 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:32 am

^And only 19 years old.. Wizards backcourt will be special in the future.
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Post#1224 » by DCsOwn » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:39 am

ChosenSavior wrote:
hodgy#11 wrote:
theycallmeZZ wrote:From one side of the backboard to the other!


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THAT IS F***** AMAZING :o


That looks like something from the Matrix. **** outstanding athleticism.
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Post#1225 » by GhostsOfGil » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:43 am

Real Deal Beal: 26 points 6 assists 6/7 from 3
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Post#1226 » by DCsOwn » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:45 am

Illmatic21 wrote:^And only 19 years old.. Wizards backcourt will be special in the future.


Beal's settling in like he did midway through his freshman year at Florida. He's playing outstanding all-around basketball atm, and he's obviously shooting the lights out lately. He plays such an under-control, cerebral style of ball and he's a tremendously underrated athlete to boot. He's gritty, mentally tough, physical and strong as an ox. He perfectly complements Wall (who isn't close to his pre-injury explosiveness btw. Still more athletic than 90 percent of the league, but he's not yet in top form.) I can't wait to see what they look like together in a year or two.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1227 » by boogie-reke » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:42 am

I'm still waiting on him to realize he's a bull and invite the contact, and learn how to draw fouls with his wide frame.

I don't see any reason for him not to be able to do that (He showed glimpses in the pre-season) - and once he does that, then he will really be taking his game to a whole other level.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1228 » by Jimmy Recard » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:06 am

Beal's numbers through January (8 games)

18.8 ppg
FG% 46.3
TS% 57.2
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1229 » by ADoaN17 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:19 am

Waiters and Beal both had career nights against the Kings. Both looking nice.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1230 » by boogie-reke » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:25 am

Beal had that stroke going tonight from behind the line, he finally consistently hit his 3pt shots.

It felt like he can't miss. Wizards are in for a treat if he can actually maintain\improve this shooting ability in the future - Him and Wall compliment eachothers games soo nice if he does.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1231 » by nin10doe » Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:31 pm

Garnett after facing Anthony Davis for the first time:

“That kid is looong,” Garnett said. “He makes me look like a midget with his arms. I was nothing like him. He’s a freak of nature. That kid’s going to be really good.”
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1232 » by T-Will20 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:27 pm

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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1233 » by Jon1798 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:42 pm

nin10doe wrote:Garnett after facing Anthony Davis for the first time:

“That kid is looong,” Garnett said. “He makes me look like a midget with his arms. I was nothing like him. He’s a freak of nature. That kid’s going to be really good.”


Davis went for 10 points, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks and a steal in 27 minutes on 80% from the field. Monty continues to lean on his veterans though as the Hornets keep winning. Anthony's minutes have been way down even though he's played well. He had 10 points, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks and 2 steals in only 21 minutes the night before.

And Aminu coming back has really dipped into Davis' stats. Aminu has averaged 10.25 rebounds a game over the last 8 games. The Hornets are one hell of a rebounding team right now.

Austin had 8 points in 23 minutes last night and looked really good. Going to be real interesting with Brian Roberts going down. Austin should get plenty of playing time at what has been his more natural position of PG, contrary to what realgm's perception of him is. Hornets fans have been begging for Roberts to come off the court and Rivers and Mason to play the bench guards as Roberts holds the ball only to create his own shot.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1234 » by Ziggy Stardust » Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:51 pm

JungleCat022 wrote:Waiters: 5 points, 4 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 block off the bench

Zeller: 11 points, 9 rebounds, 2 blocks


Those stats look decent, but this might be Zellers worst game as a pro.

Lillard had a horrible game, but he did step up a little in crunch time. Kyrie just wasn't going to be stopped though.
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Re: The OFFICIAL Rookie impressions thread pt. II 

Post#1235 » by Hero » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:49 pm

ADoaN17 wrote:Waiters and Beal both had career nights against the Kings. Both looking nice.


Waiters has certainly put together a better stretch lately. How was his shot selection been?
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