Sn0wman wrote:Celtics. Lakers can easily reload
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Sn0wman wrote:Celtics. Lakers can easily reload
Rondo To KG wrote:I'm confused as to how anyone can look at either roster and say the Celtics are in a worse position than the Lakers. Celtics have more young talent, one of the best coaches in the league, and they have their best player signed for another three years under a cheap contract.
Lakers on the other hand have no young talent on their roster outside of Dwight, a coach that doesn't fit their needs in D'Antoni, and a franchise player who might bail in free agency. Kobe might not even stick around with the team past 2014 unless they prove to him that they can still compete and if Howard does leave, they might be forced into full rebuilding mode.
Not saying that the Lakers won't end up having a better future than the Celtics, but from a pure GM perspective, the Celtics have the better assets and are in a better situation for a rebuild than LA at the moment.
Sky_Knicks wrote:markdeez33 wrote:Bargnani is strokin it!!! I'm going nuts in here! Prove them haters wrong, kid
smith2373 wrote:How did Ainge drop the ball trading Perkins? Perkins has been terrible in OKC this season, and while he got off to a slow start Jeff Green has been playing great in recent weeks. Much better than Perkins is in OKC.
How is trying to trade Ray for O.J. Mayo dropping the ball? Are you gonna tell me Ray is better than OJ? You're telling me trying to trade a guy who went on to leave the team for their biggest competition in their conference for a player that legitimately wanted to play for the team and has emerged as one of the brightest up-and-coming stars in the NBA is dropping the ball?
I never said the Lakers couldn't attract free agents and I'm not that much of a homer to say the Celtics are better at attracting free agents than the Lakers are, which is completely false. Everyone knows the Lakers track record.
Rondo To KG wrote:I'm confused as to how anyone can look at either roster and say the Celtics are in a worse position than the Lakers. Celtics have more young talent, one of the best coaches in the league, and they have their best player signed for another three years under a cheap contract.
Lakers on the other hand have no young talent on their roster outside of Dwight, a coach that doesn't fit their needs in D'Antoni, and a franchise player who might bail in free agency. Kobe might not even stick around with the team past 2014 unless they prove to him that they can still compete and if Howard does leave, they might be forced into full rebuilding mode.
Not saying that the Lakers won't end up having a better future than the Celtics, but from a pure GM perspective, the Celtics have the better assets and are in a better situation for a rebuild than LA at the moment.
FlashKing wrote:smith2373 wrote:How did Ainge drop the ball trading Perkins? Perkins has been terrible in OKC this season, and while he got off to a slow start Jeff Green has been playing great in recent weeks. Much better than Perkins is in OKC.
How is trying to trade Ray for O.J. Mayo dropping the ball? Are you gonna tell me Ray is better than OJ? You're telling me trying to trade a guy who went on to leave the team for their biggest competition in their conference for a player that legitimately wanted to play for the team and has emerged as one of the brightest up-and-coming stars in the NBA is dropping the ball?
I never said the Lakers couldn't attract free agents and I'm not that much of a homer to say the Celtics are better at attracting free agents than the Lakers are, which is completely false. Everyone knows the Lakers track record.
How many finals appearances have the Thunder been to with Perkins? 1
How many finals appearances have the Celtics been to without Perkins? 0
There's no telling how Mayo would have performed in Boston. We know how good and how deadly Ray Allen was under Doc Rivers. The Celtics were a dominate force and won a title with him,KG and Pierce. Boston so far has been a .500 basketball team without him.
Sky_Knicks wrote:markdeez33 wrote:Bargnani is strokin it!!! I'm going nuts in here! Prove them haters wrong, kid
dyukcs wrote:Rondo To KG wrote:I'm confused as to how anyone can look at either roster and say the Celtics are in a worse position than the Lakers. Celtics have more young talent, one of the best coaches in the league, and they have their best player signed for another three years under a cheap contract.
Lakers on the other hand have no young talent on their roster outside of Dwight, a coach that doesn't fit their needs in D'Antoni, and a franchise player who might bail in free agency. Kobe might not even stick around with the team past 2014 unless they prove to him that they can still compete and if Howard does leave, they might be forced into full rebuilding mode.
Not saying that the Lakers won't end up having a better future than the Celtics, but from a pure GM perspective, the Celtics have the better assets and are in a better situation for a rebuild than LA at the moment.
As much as I'm rooting for the Lakers to flop, having a superstar in his prime trumps the best possible scenario where you don't have that. They can rebuild from scratch around that.
MetalFingaz wrote:Clearly he was trying to go off the backboard to the ghost of Rik Smits, but he forget Rik was still alive and that ghosts can't dunk.
KDBG wrote:I want to kill Jamal Crawford. Murder his 80 year old a$$. But he is probably a cool guy in real life.
NJ_YANKEE_45 wrote:FlashKing wrote:smith2373 wrote:How did Ainge drop the ball trading Perkins? Perkins has been terrible in OKC this season, and while he got off to a slow start Jeff Green has been playing great in recent weeks. Much better than Perkins is in OKC.
How is trying to trade Ray for O.J. Mayo dropping the ball? Are you gonna tell me Ray is better than OJ? You're telling me trying to trade a guy who went on to leave the team for their biggest competition in their conference for a player that legitimately wanted to play for the team and has emerged as one of the brightest up-and-coming stars in the NBA is dropping the ball?
I never said the Lakers couldn't attract free agents and I'm not that much of a homer to say the Celtics are better at attracting free agents than the Lakers are, which is completely false. Everyone knows the Lakers track record.
How many finals appearances have the Thunder been to with Perkins? 1
How many finals appearances have the Celtics been to without Perkins? 0
There's no telling how Mayo would have performed in Boston. We know how good and how deadly Ray Allen was under Doc Rivers. The Celtics were a dominate force and won a title with him,KG and Pierce. Boston so far has been a .500 basketball team without him.
The Thunder having more finals appearances has absolutely nothing to do with them, not Boston, having Perkins. Besides, Boston had two chances to meet them there last year
FlashKing wrote:smith2373 wrote:How did Ainge drop the ball trading Perkins? Perkins has been terrible in OKC this season, and while he got off to a slow start Jeff Green has been playing great in recent weeks. Much better than Perkins is in OKC.
How is trying to trade Ray for O.J. Mayo dropping the ball? Are you gonna tell me Ray is better than OJ? You're telling me trying to trade a guy who went on to leave the team for their biggest competition in their conference for a player that legitimately wanted to play for the team and has emerged as one of the brightest up-and-coming stars in the NBA is dropping the ball?
I never said the Lakers couldn't attract free agents and I'm not that much of a homer to say the Celtics are better at attracting free agents than the Lakers are, which is completely false. Everyone knows the Lakers track record.
How many finals appearances have the Thunder been to with Perkins? 1
How many finals appearances have the Celtics been to without Perkins? 0
There's no telling how Mayo would have performed in Boston. We know how good and how deadly Ray Allen was under Doc Rivers. The Celtics were a dominate force and won a title with him,KG and Pierce. Boston so far has been a .500 basketball team without him.
smith2373 wrote:FlashKing wrote:smith2373 wrote:How did Ainge drop the ball trading Perkins? Perkins has been terrible in OKC this season, and while he got off to a slow start Jeff Green has been playing great in recent weeks. Much better than Perkins is in OKC.
How is trying to trade Ray for O.J. Mayo dropping the ball? Are you gonna tell me Ray is better than OJ? You're telling me trying to trade a guy who went on to leave the team for their biggest competition in their conference for a player that legitimately wanted to play for the team and has emerged as one of the brightest up-and-coming stars in the NBA is dropping the ball?
I never said the Lakers couldn't attract free agents and I'm not that much of a homer to say the Celtics are better at attracting free agents than the Lakers are, which is completely false. Everyone knows the Lakers track record.
How many finals appearances have the Thunder been to with Perkins? 1
How many finals appearances have the Celtics been to without Perkins? 0
There's no telling how Mayo would have performed in Boston. We know how good and how deadly Ray Allen was under Doc Rivers. The Celtics were a dominate force and won a title with him,KG and Pierce. Boston so far has been a .500 basketball team without him.
So because the Celtics haven't been to the Finals since they traded Perkins, they dropped the ball with the trade? Great logic. It's not like there were other players already in OKC like Durant, Westbrook, Harden & Ibaka. Oh and by the way, the Thunder lost to the same team in the playoffs with Perkins that the Celtics did without Perkins and the Celtics gave the Heat a better fight without Perkins than the Thunder did with Perkins.
Actually the Celtics are over .500, and I hope you aren't implying that the Celtics have gotten off to a slow start because they don't have Ray Allen.
Debaser wrote:Celtics have the better young talent Rondo,Bradley, Green, Sullie, Melo
Celtics have all their draft picks
Celtics have the better coach
FlashKing wrote:NJ_YANKEE_45 wrote:FlashKing wrote:
How many finals appearances have the Thunder been to with Perkins? 1
How many finals appearances have the Celtics been to without Perkins? 0
There's no telling how Mayo would have performed in Boston. We know how good and how deadly Ray Allen was under Doc Rivers. The Celtics were a dominate force and won a title with him,KG and Pierce. Boston so far has been a .500 basketball team without him.
The Thunder having more finals appearances has absolutely nothing to do with them, not Boston, having Perkins. Besides, Boston had two chances to meet them there last year
Keep telling yourself that.
MetalFingaz wrote:Clearly he was trying to go off the backboard to the ghost of Rik Smits, but he forget Rik was still alive and that ghosts can't dunk.
KDBG wrote:I want to kill Jamal Crawford. Murder his 80 year old a$$. But he is probably a cool guy in real life.
FlashKing wrote:NJ_YANKEE_45 wrote:FlashKing wrote:
How many finals appearances have the Thunder been to with Perkins? 1
How many finals appearances have the Celtics been to without Perkins? 0
There's no telling how Mayo would have performed in Boston. We know how good and how deadly Ray Allen was under Doc Rivers. The Celtics were a dominate force and won a title with him,KG and Pierce. Boston so far has been a .500 basketball team without him.
The Thunder having more finals appearances has absolutely nothing to do with them, not Boston, having Perkins. Besides, Boston had two chances to meet them there last year
Keep telling yourself that.
Sky_Knicks wrote:markdeez33 wrote:Bargnani is strokin it!!! I'm going nuts in here! Prove them haters wrong, kid
FlashKing wrote:smith2373 wrote:FlashKing wrote:
How many finals appearances have the Thunder been to with Perkins? 1
How many finals appearances have the Celtics been to without Perkins? 0
There's no telling how Mayo would have performed in Boston. We know how good and how deadly Ray Allen was under Doc Rivers. The Celtics were a dominate force and won a title with him,KG and Pierce. Boston so far has been a .500 basketball team without him.
So because the Celtics haven't been to the Finals since they traded Perkins, they dropped the ball with the trade? Great logic. It's not like there were other players already in OKC like Durant, Westbrook, Harden & Ibaka. Oh and by the way, the Thunder lost to the same team in the playoffs with Perkins that the Celtics did without Perkins and the Celtics gave the Heat a better fight without Perkins than the Thunder did with Perkins.
Actually the Celtics are over .500, and I hope you aren't implying that the Celtics have gotten off to a slow start because they don't have Ray Allen.
It is great logic because it's a fact. Wow, really? So Boston is better off without Ray?
Catchall wrote:The Lakers will rebuild the way the Knicks and Heat did. Start with an All-Star caliber player (Dwight), attract 1 or 2 more big-name FAs, draft great athletes in the late first and second rounds, attract vets who will take MLE to play for a contender. They just need to get Gasol off their books and dump Metta.
Shazaam! New era.
5DOM wrote:Boston might have the better/more pieces, but it's all about the superstars, and the Lakers always seem to have at least one. They will probably continue to have one whether it's Dwight or not.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
Stolen Team Fan wrote:Catchall wrote:The Lakers will rebuild the way the Knicks and Heat did. Start with an All-Star caliber player (Dwight), attract 1 or 2 more big-name FAs, draft great athletes in the late first and second rounds, attract vets who will take MLE to play for a contender. They just need to get Gasol off their books and dump Metta.
Shazaam! New era.
Kobe's contract is a much bigger albatross than Pau's contract. $50M tied up in 2 players is absurd. If Kobe was so intent on winning, he would renegotiate the rest of his contract. That right there (and finding a new home for Pau) would help the Lakers tremendously.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.