Rasheed Wallace is 6 assists shy...

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Re: Rasheed Wallace is 6 assists shy... 

Post#41 » by Ursusamericanus » Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:57 pm

Wouldn't be surprised to see LeBron and Durant join this club as well.

In any case, you've got to tip your hat to Sheed. There was definitely untapped potential left in his career which many lament, yet he still has had a standout presence in the league. Just is a testament to his unique natural talent.
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Re: Rasheed Wallace is 6 assists shy... 

Post#42 » by Jase » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:46 pm

LLJ wrote:Horry might have made this list if he was ever on a bad team and had to be bumped up to 1st or 2nd option.


Here we go. :roll:
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Re: Rasheed Wallace is 6 assists shy... 

Post#43 » by LLJ » Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:57 pm

Jase wrote:
LLJ wrote:Horry might have made this list if he was ever on a bad team and had to be bumped up to 1st or 2nd option.


Here we go. :roll:


Hey, I'm not saying he would have been able to handle taking a bigger load. I'm just saying that it's possible if he were to average 14-16 ppg for a multiple year stretch he might have been able to get on this list. The assists, rebounds, steals and blocks already make the cut, check his numbers. He's only missing points and 3 pt FGM. He's 205 treys away from 1000. A few more jacks per season might have been able to do it. Points would be tricky though. He would have to average about 1000 points a season (roughly 14 ppg) for at least an extra 6 seasons to have a shot at 15000 points though.
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Re: Rasheed Wallace is 6 assists shy... 

Post#44 » by The Main Event » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:31 pm

spudwebb wrote:Man, I think about Rasheed a lot when I see him play.


So you think about Rasheed Wallace when you see Rasheed Wallace play. Makes sense.
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Re: Rasheed Wallace is 6 assists shy... 

Post#45 » by EddieJonesFan » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:33 pm

And why are those particular combination of numbers significant?
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Post#46 » by LLJ » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:35 pm

EddieJonesFan wrote:And why are those particular combination of numbers significant?



Big men who shoot threes and play defence are interesting? :dontknow:
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Post#47 » by jimmywolfrey » Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:10 pm

Seriously you need an answer on why a big man who can shoot outside and play interior defense and rebound is significant??
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Re: Rasheed Wallace is 6 assists shy... 

Post#48 » by JustinSane » Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:35 pm

RutgersBJJ wrote:Has anybody's career ever been hurt more by the existence of a 3-point line to temp him with fool's gold than Sheed?

Great post player, and imagine how good he would have been if he had no temptation to ever leave the post...


I think this is a misconception. I didn't miss too many games when he was with the Pistons, and while his post game was completely unguardable (there was no blocking his turnaround jump shot), it was not that high percentage of a shot. He may actually have been more valuable as a stretch 4.
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Re: Rasheed Wallace is 6 assists shy... 

Post#49 » by Dear Leader » Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:54 pm

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Re: Rasheed Wallace is 6 assists shy... 

Post#50 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:55 pm

JustinSane wrote:
RutgersBJJ wrote:Has anybody's career ever been hurt more by the existence of a 3-point line to temp him with fool's gold than Sheed?

Great post player, and imagine how good he would have been if he had no temptation to ever leave the post...


I think this is a misconception. I didn't miss too many games when he was with the Pistons, and while his post game was completely unguardable (there was no blocking his turnaround jump shot), it was not that high percentage of a shot. He may actually have been more valuable as a stretch 4.

Sheed has more to his post game than just the turnaround- he has a a good hook shot and drop step move. I think the most valid criticism of Sheed is that he doesn't post up enough- there isn't a post skill that he doesn't have and he is long enough to get his shot off over almost anybody
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Re: Rasheed Wallace is 6 assists shy... 

Post#51 » by Damon_3388 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:54 am

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RutgersBJJ wrote:Has anybody's career ever been hurt more by the existence of a 3-point line to temp him with fool's gold than Sheed?


Arguably, Antoine Walker.


I don't think it's arguable at all. It's fact. Walker had some of the worst shot selection of any "star" in recent memory, and was one of the least efficient scorers of all time considering the volume of shots he took.

Stupid thing was, coaches got conned into voting him into All-Star teams when he was shooting below 40% from the field and jacking up 8 threes a game. His numbers were massively inflated at his peak by playing 41-42 minutes a night.
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Re: Rasheed Wallace is 6 assists shy... 

Post#52 » by pacers33granger » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:03 am

Roscoe Sheed wrote:
JustinSane wrote:
RutgersBJJ wrote:Has anybody's career ever been hurt more by the existence of a 3-point line to temp him with fool's gold than Sheed?

Great post player, and imagine how good he would have been if he had no temptation to ever leave the post...


I think this is a misconception. I didn't miss too many games when he was with the Pistons, and while his post game was completely unguardable (there was no blocking his turnaround jump shot), it was not that high percentage of a shot. He may actually have been more valuable as a stretch 4.

Sheed has more to his post game than just the turnaround- he has a a good hook shot and drop step move. I think the most valid criticism of Sheed is that he doesn't post up enough- there isn't a post skill that he doesn't have and he is long enough to get his shot off over almost anybody


During the Knicks and Heat game this year he was abusing the Heat down low for a short period of time and at that point hadn't even played much this season + the 2 years off. Granted the Heat post D is one of their weaknesses, but there's not many bigs in the whole league that that.

Sheed's problem likely also stemmed from the teams he was on in his career. Young teams that weren't expected to win where he was the star, so he could chuck threes if he wanted and it was just chalked up to being young. Then deep teams where he could play a niche role being a stretch 4 and facilitating from the post when need be. No team he was on ever really needed him to dominate the post to win. The young ones weren't expected to win and the deep teams had multiple threats and won more by committee.

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