The Rockets should just trade Lin

[chandlerbang23]

Lakers will be the best fit

There is no good trade between Houston and the Lakers.

Three way with Houston. Get Millsap and Lin in LA, Houston wanted Pau. It might take some stretching, but it would be an interesting concept.

Though Lin would be an expensive, expensive backup.

lakers arent gonna pay Lin 15 mill in the 3rd year of his contract lol. Pau has 2 bad knees and cant run , he wont even fit our system.

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One thing that OptimusOne6 and I have in common is frustration with the current situation. We are just coming at it from different angles. Me from the Rockets side, him from the Lin fan side.

I want Lin to succeed, and I want him to do it in a Rockets uniform. I am (according to some) annoyingly optimistic about the 713 Backcourt gelling and becoming something special in this league. We've seen flashes of it, but nothing consistent. The fact of the matter is that right now Harden is the Rockets best hope to win...but they can't keep putting those workhorse minutes on him. He needs to figure out how to play better with another ball-handler like Lin.

Lin, for his part, needs to stop being so damned submissive while he's out there. My great hope for him is to develop into the facilitator that I think that he can be, but he needs to be much more assertive than he has shown. He does not need to come off of the bench - he needs to find that backcourt balance that seemed to flow so naturally in the first two games of this season.

The wrong thing for the Rockets is to approach the 713 backcourt as a Lin or Harden situation...it is a Lin AND Harden situation. They will have to figure it out as they almost definitely going to be teammates for at least the next three years. Any thought of trading one or the other is highly unlikely. Their best chance to succeed is to be patient and figure it out.

Take the advice from another famous beard out there...

not as easily done as said. do you not see the multiple times Sampson yells at Lin for no reason? if Lin doesn't do as they say, they yell at him, yank him, and keeps him on the bench throughout the whole 4th quarter and OT. when he finally ignores them (like during the Spurs game) he does a fantastic job on both ends of the floors but gets called out repeatedly for 1 freakin play after the game. then in this last game vs Boston he got yanked/yelled at by Sampson and was kept on the bench the whole 4th quarter. the coaching staff is just finding anything to make it seem valid to blackball him. it's so obvious it's not Rocket Science man! it's Rocket's Basketball!

[Mr. E]

Lakers will be the best fit

There is no good trade between Houston and the Lakers.

Three way with Houston. Get Millsap and Lin in LA, Houston wanted Pau. It might take some stretching, but it would be an interesting concept.

Though Lin would be an expensive, expensive backup.

Nah, I don't think that Pau in Houston is a realistic idea at this point. Millsap would be a more realistic target.

[Mr. E]

I appreciate your input. As an outsider looking in, he seems to be doing a decent job of faciliating...when he's given the opportunity. From the games that I watched, he shares quite a bit of the facilitating with the other players, not just Harden. I agree that he needs to stop passing up open shots/lanes though.

Maybe your system is designed to operate without using a PG as much? I'm going off of TD's days in NY but to me, he's not a high bbiq player, has subpar court vision, and couldn't(didn't) direct an offense. When given the opportunity to take a shot, he could & would and he gave effort on D.

The problem with our system right now is...well...we really don't have a system. I'm not arguing any of the comments about the failing in coaching in Houston. I am arguing that the team should avoid making a knee-jerk move just based off of what we have seen so far. I think that these guys can become something special...but like you said, we need the opportunity to see it.

If this team was 2-18 I doubt that we'd be seeing Douglas on the floor. But since the team is right in that .500 range they are doing everything that they can to win. I am not, nor will I EVER advocate tanking, but part of me is wondering if we are sacrificing the long-term for a few wins right now.

[Sasaki]

the whole coaching staff needs to go. they are a cancer to the organization. period.

1) what coaching staff tries to groom a pg into a useless spot up shooter? it's usually the other way around. simply unheard of
2) what coaching staff doesn't know how to create plays more advance than just plays that get a player isolated?
3) what assistant coaching staff who is known for being a "defensive specialist" end up coaching a team to dead last in point allowed?
4) what coaching staff puts the ball into their sg's hands to create plays for everybody?
5) what coaching staff rewards their sissy pf with more minutes when he doesn't grab any rebound nor plays any defense.
6) what coaching staff keeps their big rebounding center out of final minutes of the Miami game at a critical moment when they needed to secure a rebound?
7) what coaching staff plays a 2nd unit pg over their starting pg in OT minutes vs Portland and end up getting embarrassed by Dillard.
8) what coaching staff tries to push Douglasanity to the world that does not even want to see that kind of crappy basketball, EVER?
9) what coaching staff gets pissed because his favorite pg from previous season was traded away after they worked so hard to blackball Lowry in favor of their said favorite pg?
10) what coaching staff favors Johnny Flynn over any pg at all and got embarrassed because they got exposed since Flynn is complete trash?
11) what coaching staff takes out both of their best ball handlers then runs the ball through Toney "give me freakin break" Douglas?
12) what coaching staff keeps trying to groom Cole Aldrich to be the next white "Dream Shake"?
13) what coaching staff allows Carlos "give me a freakin break" Delfino primary ball handling responsibilities?
14) what coaching staff wouldn't play Terrance Jones over Patrick "i'm a complete wuss" Patterson?
15) what coaching staff puts a rookie who is KNOWN to have mental issues in the doghouse until the end of time?
16) what coaching staff suggests the team waive Livingston for Toney "i wave my freakin hands to indicate i play defense" Douglas
17) what coaching staff is trying do everything against the wishes of their owner and gm? and trying to make them look like fools just to say "i told you so!" even when Douglasanity finally hits a 3 pt when shooting 1-5 and allowing opposition to torch him every night?

damn there's just too much wrong with this Rockets coaching staff. the list can go on and on..

You blame the coaching staff for the Royce White situation. Yeah, I'm not wasting my time explaining how you're wrong on nearly all of these.

[msg4k90]

melo and amare struggled to play together last season...

now I don't know if lin or harden can play together, but like I posted earlier I'd like the rockets to make lin their bench pg.

people have suggested amare start from the bench for the knicks so that he doesn't mess with whats working right now for the knicks. this seems very likely when he comes back and it would be good for the team.

at least mike woodson will try to use melo and amare effectively.

right now...what lin is averaging per game is horrible...i've metioned this several times...toney douglas has a higher usg% rate than lin. douglas is a bench player. I guess the rockets have found their PG for the season.


random:
i don't know why scoring pg's get a bad rep, like westbrook for example.

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the whole coaching staff needs to go. they are a cancer to the organization. period.

1) what coaching staff tries to groom a pg into a useless spot up shooter? it's usually the other way around. simply unheard of
2) what coaching staff doesn't know how to create plays more advance than just plays that get a player isolated?
3) what assistant coaching staff who is known for being a "defensive specialist" end up coaching a team to dead last in point allowed?
4) what coaching staff puts the ball into their sg's hands to create plays for everybody?
5) what coaching staff rewards their sissy pf with more minutes when he doesn't grab any rebound nor plays any defense.
6) what coaching staff keeps their big rebounding center out of final minutes of the Miami game at a critical moment when they needed to secure a rebound?
7) what coaching staff plays a 2nd unit pg over their starting pg in OT minutes vs Portland and end up getting embarrassed by Dillard.
8) what coaching staff tries to push Douglasanity to the world that does not even want to see that kind of crappy basketball, EVER?
9) what coaching staff gets pissed because his favorite pg from previous season was traded away after they worked so hard to blackball Lowry in favor of their said favorite pg?
10) what coaching staff favors Johnny Flynn over any pg at all and got embarrassed because they got exposed since Flynn is complete trash?
11) what coaching staff takes out both of their best ball handlers then runs the ball through Toney "give me freakin break" Douglas?
12) what coaching staff keeps trying to groom Cole Aldrich to be the next white "Dream Shake"?
13) what coaching staff allows Carlos "give me a freakin break" Delfino primary ball handling responsibilities?
14) what coaching staff wouldn't play Terrance Jones over Patrick "i'm a complete wuss" Patterson?
15) what coaching staff puts a rookie who is KNOWN to have mental issues in the doghouse until the end of time?
16) what coaching staff suggests the team waive Livingston for Toney "i wave my freakin hands to indicate i play defense" Douglas
17) what coaching staff is trying do everything against the wishes of their owner and gm? and trying to make them look like fools just to say "i told you so!" even when Douglasanity finally hits a 3 pt when shooting 1-5 and allowing opposition to torch him every night?

damn there's just too much wrong with this Rockets coaching staff. the list can go on and on..

You blame the coaching staff for the Royce White situation. Yeah, I'm not wasting my time explaining how you're wrong on nearly all of these.

and where in this post did i even mention Royce White? lol you're such a tool.

[Sasaki]

If it's not White, then what the heck is #15?

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If it's not White, then what the heck is #15?

oh so you do agree. Royce White does have mental issues. and i thought you and McHale were the only ones who don't see this. i take it back, you are a smart cookie!

[Mr. E]

and where in this post did i even mention Royce White? lol you're such a tool.

1) If you have to resort to namecalling you probably already lost the argument.

2) Your direct quote:

15) what coaching staff puts a rookie who is KNOWN to have mental issues in the doghouse until the end of time?

If you are not talking about Royce White, then who are you talking about? Terrance Jones? Donatas Motiejunas?

I haven't heard anything along those lines with these two.


Here's the thing...I think that you were talking about Royce White and are being very disingenuous right now pretending that you were not talking about Royce White with that comment.

If I am wrong, please let me know.

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and where in this post did i even mention Royce White? lol you're such a tool.

1) If you have to resort to namecalling you probably already lost the argument.

2) Your direct quote:

15) what coaching staff puts a rookie who is KNOWN to have mental issues in the doghouse until the end of time?

If you are not talking about Royce White, then who are you talking about? Terrance Jones? Donatas Motiejunas?

I haven't heard anything along those lines with these two.


Here's the thing...I think that you were talking about Royce White and are being very disingenuous right now pretending that you were not talking about Royce White with that comment.

If I am wrong, please let me know.

uh-oh i used the "tool' word, so ban me. or better yet, bench me for the whole 4th quarter

[MVP Rose]

lin and parsons (+money filler) for gasol straight up

and why would houston do this?

[jstarks10]

Well, you made that easy for me. You won't be back on the GB ever again. Goodbye.

[spaceballer]

You blame the coaching staff for the Royce White situation. Yeah, I'm not wasting my time explaining how you're wrong on nearly all of these.

I believe in this instance it is absolutely fair to blame McHale for Royce White. Did you watch the Royce White Draft Day video from Grantland? McHale is directly responsible for drafting Royce White.

[Mr. E]

uh-oh i used the "tool' word, so ban me. or better yet, bench me for the whole 4th quarter

OK...so if not Royce White then which player were you referring to?

[TMU]

lin and parsons (+money filler) for gasol straight up

If Pau Gasol is that valuable/good why the hell do you Lakers fan always criticize him for all your losses?

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Baiting a fan base. Check your PMs.

[OptimusOne6]

LOL when because a starter gets benched in favor better matchups for the team, he should be traded. only on REALGM

How was it a better matchup?

Lin was defending Rondo better than Douglas did and he was playing overall better than Douglas did.

All these Rockets coach do is yell at Lin to death, it wouldn't even surprise me if the Rockets coaching staff criticized Lin even after that 38 points, 7 assists performance he had against the Spurs.

They don't like him and it's apparent, just trade him so both parties can be happy. If your organization is willing to hire a dumb coach like Mchale who is willing to hire dumb assistants then you don't deserve a player like Lin or Dragic or Lowry or any PG that isn't a complete loser.

[blazinskillz]

So much excuses for an average player. He is what he is, get mad if you want to.

[Ayt]

I think Lin needs to start making some shots.