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Race to the MVP pt. III

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Post#91 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Tue Jan 8, 2013 2:43 pm by PCProductions

Lebron in the lead for me due to his competition falling from their hot starts (looking at Melo).

1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Chris Paul


4. Melo

Durant can be forgiven for losing to the Wiz since Lebron has ALSO lost to them (the Wiz... who knew?)

Chris Paul needs a #1 record to make up for his stats, which do matter in MVP discussion.
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Post#92 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Tue Jan 8, 2013 4:46 pm by 52-12-7

1. Paul
2. Durant
3. Lebron
4. Duncan
5. Melo
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Post#93 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:09 pm by ShowTimeERA

As of today

Durant
Paul
Lebron
Melo
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Post#94 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Tue Jan 8, 2013 6:21 pm by WinisKing

1a. Lebron
1b. Durant

3. Paul


4. Melo


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Post#95 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Tue Jan 8, 2013 6:41 pm by NYK_89

PCProductions wrote:Lebron in the lead for me due to his competition falling from their hot starts (looking at Melo).

1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Chris Paul


4. Melo

Durant can be forgiven for losing to the Wiz since Lebron has ALSO lost to them (the Wiz... who knew?)

Chris Paul needs a #1 record to make up for his stats, which do matter in MVP discussion.

What on earth??? Are you talking about the team success (in huge part due to him missing a few games) because he has had basically nothing but good games recently except last night.. FFS the guy won player of the week
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Post#96 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Tue Jan 8, 2013 8:21 pm by TheKingOfVa360

PCProductions wrote:Lebron in the lead for me due to his competition falling from their hot starts (looking at Melo).

1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Chris Paul


4. Melo

Durant can be forgiven for losing to the Wiz since Lebron has ALSO lost to them (the Wiz... who knew?)

Chris Paul needs a #1 record to make up for his stats, which do matter in MVP discussion.



Uh what are you talking about? Melo had two 40 point games in the last week or so. You're sounding like a real casual fan.
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Post#97 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:30 pm by CJ_18

mademan wrote:Lebron James on pace to win the Lebron James award.
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Post#98 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:39 pm by NinjaSheppard

I can't help but feel like if LeBron/Wade/Kobe etc were taking a team that had Asik/Parsons as its second and third best player and had them 21-14 they would be getting a lot more MVP love than Harden has so far.
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Post#99 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:10 pm by datstockton

^ beat me to it.

Harden deserves some respect in this conversation.
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Post#100 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:21 pm by Doctor MJ

Well with Harden you have to consider the slower start too. Harder's gotten a LOT better as the season has moved on, as have the Rockets' record. They are now on pace for 50 wins. If this keeps going in the same direction Harden will get a good amount of talk.

At the same time though, this is looking like a VERY strong year and that's something we need to recognize and just appreciate. Quite literally I think you can make the argument that Harden's both clearly outside the Top 5 and still better than Rose was when he won the MVP, and I say this as someone who didn't think Rose's MVP was a crazy vote (it was just a crazy year with no great candidates).
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Post#101 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:56 pm by Krodis

Harden's averaging 29.4/5/4 on .650~ TS% over his last 16 games, not counting tonight (which will help a tiny bit).
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Post#102 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:11 am by fallacy

The Thunder have actually gotten better (or atleast 100% maintained) so far after losing a possible top 5 MVP candidate? Durant is clearly the MVP then
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Post#103 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:29 am by ROballer

PCProductions wrote:Lebron in the lead for me due to his competition falling from their hot starts (looking at Melo).



Talking about stats or team record?

Because the Heat are 3-4 in the last 7 games with 2 of their victories coming in OT against the struggling Mavs and Orlando(with losses to Chicago,Indiana,Milwaukee and Detroit)

They better snap out of the funk on the upcoming west road trip because the way they are playing,they can lose grip to the Clippers and OKC
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Post#104 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Wed Jan 9, 2013 5:02 am by TwentyOne920

ROballer wrote:
PCProductions wrote:Lebron in the lead for me due to his competition falling from their hot starts (looking at Melo).



Talking about stats or team record?

Because the Heat are 3-4 in the last 7 games with 2 of their victories coming in OT against the struggling Mavs and Orlando(with losses to Chicago,Indiana,Milwaukee and Detroit)

They better snap out of the funk on the upcoming west road trip because the way they are playing,they can lose grip to the Clippers and OKC


What's amusing is that LeBron is still putting up good numbers (save a 7 turnover performance against Indiana, but they're the best defensive team in the league).

It's the supporting cast that has to step up. Wade and Bosh are playing decently but Allen has gone AWOL and so has Battier.
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Post#105 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Wed Jan 9, 2013 9:07 am by GaryCarterFan

theokie wrote:Its really not a hard concept to grasp guys. Its just silly to argue how bad your teammates are when in fact thats not the case, and if it was then they wouldnt be a contender for the title. They are 2nd in the East. They have a chance.

Why does Dirk in 2010 matter? He didnt win the MVP either. That and Carmelo isn't even close to Dirks level. Clearly Dirk had talent around him too, look what happened last year without those guys.


Just show me a post from before the season where you talked about how good Melo's teammates were and I'll never question a thing you say again. Without looking, I'm going to say that doesn't exist.
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Post#106 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:21 am by StopItDRose

Steph Curry should be getting more love. I mean the Warriors aren't quite a powerhouse, but with how they're doing in the stacked West... it's goin' good.
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Post#107 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Wed Jan 9, 2013 11:27 am by Woodsanity

Steph Curry is 6th on the MVP ladder.... Which frankly is way too high. I am not even sure he is the most valuable player on his team. What makes him more valuable than David Lee?
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Post#108 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Wed Jan 9, 2013 12:10 pm by fallacy

Curry is pretty far down

1. Durant
2. Lebron
3. CP3
4. Melo
5. Duncan
6. Kobe

He'd be somewhere after that. Harden might even be ahead of Kobe even though the rockets record against the west is really bad.
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Post#109 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:24 pm by JordansBulls

1. CP3
2. Durant
3. Lebron
4. Melo
5. Harden
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Post#110 Re: Race to the MVP pt. III
Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:45 pm by theokie

GaryCarterFan wrote:
theokie wrote:Its really not a hard concept to grasp guys. Its just silly to argue how bad your teammates are when in fact thats not the case, and if it was then they wouldnt be a contender for the title. They are 2nd in the East. They have a chance.

Why does Dirk in 2010 matter? He didnt win the MVP either. That and Carmelo isn't even close to Dirks level. Clearly Dirk had talent around him too, look what happened last year without those guys.


Just show me a post from before the season where you talked about how good Melo's teammates were and I'll never question a thing you say again. Without looking, I'm going to say that doesn't exist.


Don't get how that's relevant to my point. Are you trying to prove how bad the Knicks are by me saying or not saying how good his teammates are? I don't know what that will show. I've certainly praised Tyson Chandler and Jason Kidd quite often. Never been that high on Felton and I've always thought JR Smith made a great 6th man.

What exactly do you want from me? I'm just saying his teammates arent horrible. Don't know why that would bother any Knick fans. Then again that was my whole point to begin with.
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