Bskey wrote:Come on now. You reference career numbers and then take a jab at stat heads in the same sentence. Batum has had a more efficient career than Gay, is that a big enough sample size?
I'm not going to do the numbers game because they play two totally different roles...but Gay has a higher career PER.
Gay is a slightly better defensive rebounder and gets to the line a bit more. He also has .3 more steals and .1 less fouls. That's really it. Batum blows him away in offensive efficiency and is the superior player. It's not that hard to see once you get over the fact that Gay is a good player, but not a star.
Batum's been a role player his whole damn career. He's good at it, but there's a reason he's a role player. And Rudy being/not being a star has nothing to do with that fact.
What does the eye test show that the stats don't in this case? Gay is better at creating his own shot, but Batum has hit his share of clutch shots and game winners so lets not pretend that Gay being a "go to" guy is put in situations other players aren't.
Yeah, and it's a lot harder to carry a team than it is being a role player on a team with established stars. Gay has clearly done that (although not that well) and I really doubt the same could be said for Batum. Why? Because Batum is obviously a role player, just watch him play. He's a poor man's Luol Deng. Not a knock on Deng either, just pointing out the fact that it's a lot easier to be "efficient" when teams aren't keying in on you.
Gay is a better player than Batum, and people saying "lol, Batum is way better than Gay" don't know what they're talking about. Again, you want to talk about contract value, that's a whole different subject.