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Post#1 » by pipfan » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:35 pm

Big Bulls fan here who hated the Boozer signing in 2010. I wanted DLee and still do. But what is done is done.

I have been pushing for us to trade him also, but as many wiser Bulls fans have pointed out, if we don't improve the team, why deal him.

This year he has played well. He played every game last year and so far this year. His D is not terrible anymore, just bad. He passes well, is good on offense and is playing harder. Plus, he and Noah figured it out.

My question is-how many PF's in the East are better than him. Here is the list
Det-Monroe will be in a year or two, once Drummund starts, but not yet
Clev-Thompson looks ok but no
Milw-? they have a bunch of 4's but none are better
Indy-DWest was better, but not anymore

Miami-Haslem-no
Wash-Okafor starts at the 4 I believe, so no
Atl-Jsmith-maybe-this one is close
Orl-BBD-no
Char-who is their 4?

Bos-Bass-no
Phily-Young-no
tor-Bargs-no
NJ-Humphries-no
NY-Melo for now, so yes. Amare-no

So, is it possible that Boozer, one of the most hated on players in the league, is the best 4 in the East?
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Post#2 » by 624 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:37 pm

Bosh and Garnett
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Post#3 » by pipfan » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:44 pm

Big Bulls fan here who hated the Boozer signing in 2010. I wanted DLee and still do. But what is done is done.

I have been pushing for us to trade him also, but as many wiser Bulls fans have pointed out, if we don't improve the team, why deal him.

This year he has played well. He played every game last year and so far this year. His D is not terrible anymore, just bad. He passes well, is good on offense and is playing harder. Plus, he and Noah figured it out.

My question is-how many PF's in the East are better than him. Here is the list
Det-Monroe will be in a year or two, once Drummund starts, but not yet
Clev-Thompson looks ok but no
Milw-? they have a bunch of 4's but none are better
Indy-DWest was better, but not anymore

Miami-Haslem-no
Wash-Okafor starts at the 4 I believe, so no
Atl-Jsmith-maybe-this one is close
Orl-BBD-no
Char-who is their 4?

Bos-Bass-no
Phily-Young-no
tor-Bargs-no
NJ-Humphries-no
NY-Melo for now, so yes. Amare-no

So, is it possible that Boozer, one of the most hated on players in the league, is the best 4 in the East?
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Post#4 » by NYK_89 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:58 pm

Josh smith is SIGNIFICANTLY better, Id also take Amar'e in a heartbeat over him.. Just because he isnt worth 22 million does not make an overpaid 14m player better then him, also id take DWest as well now that i think about it.
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Post#5 » by ReturnofMVP3 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:59 pm

Chris Bosh or do you call him a center now :lol:
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Post#6 » by NYK_89 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:01 pm

ReturnofMVP3 wrote:Chris Bosh or do you call him a center now :lol:

Also as these guys have said Bosh/Garnett are clearly better and they obviously count if you want to exclude melo
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Post#7 » by j_angel » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:09 pm

Chris Bosh.
Kevin Garnett.
Josh Smith.
Al Horford.
are clearly better. Contract not considered, those 4 guys are just better than Boozer.

Contract considered I would take
Taj Gibson, Tristan Thompson, Ed Davis, David West, Larry Sanders, Greg Monroe over him. (Maybe even Sullinger also).
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Post#8 » by BIGGIEsmalls 23 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:13 pm

I believe the OP is asking about production from this season, while playing the PF position.
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Post#9 » by BilboBanginz » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:17 pm

The difference between a 4 and 5 is becoming smaller and smaller. So excluding players like Garnett and Bosh in this thread is silly IMO.
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Post#10 » by j_angel » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:17 pm

BIGGIEsmalls 23 wrote:I believe the OP is asking about production from this season, while playing the PF position.


'So, is it possible that Boozer, one of the most hated on players in the league, is the best 4 in the East?'
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Post#11 » by Milkdud » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:19 pm

Well is thats the case the OP would be skewing his question to get his desired answer.

I think most objective people would understand players like Bosh,Horford and KG are all capable PF who are playing center out of team need.
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Post#12 » by pipfan » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:26 pm

Obviously Bosh and KG are better, Horford too. But all 3 play their minutes at the 5 now. I listed Melo as better because he is playing the 4 this season-eventhough he is traditionally a 3 man.

It is just about 4's this year-not contracts, not past, not potential. Just this year, 4 men. The only guy, other than the obvious Melo, is JSmith-but his bone-headedness is a big drawback.

At worst, Boozer is the 3rd best 4 man in the East this year
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Post#13 » by TheProfessor » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:30 pm

Melo has been producing at the pf has he not?
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Post#14 » by Milkdud » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:32 pm

Well in that case whoopy damn doo about being one of the better PF in a conference with no good PF.
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Post#15 » by j_angel » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:34 pm

Haslem has played only 13 games as starting forward. How many games has Lebron started at PF?

and how many has Melo started at PF? curious
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Post#16 » by Krodis » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:52 pm

pipfan wrote:Atl-Jsmith-maybe-this one is close

... Really now?
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Post#17 » by nuposse04 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:54 pm

Pretty sure Nene plays the 4 for us...
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Post#18 » by NYK_89 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:56 pm

pretty simple to answer the main question beyond how much i feel Boozer is below plenty of traditional 4s
Carmelo is CLEARLY #1 if he is excluded bosh/garnett are the answer... Otherwise J Smith is clearly better
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Post#19 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:59 pm

Boozers good. But he still sucks.
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Post#20 » by Guzman_9 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:59 pm

hahahaha West is better than Boozer.
You guys already Shnow who it is!

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