John Wall Has Gotten FAT

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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#31 » by BIGGIEsmalls 23 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 9:07 pm

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Here's another player below that's been out rehabbing a leg injury like Wall:

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It's obvious that one guy has been working, while the other hasn't.


To be fair to John, people can run and do any number of cardio workouts around 4 months afteran acl surgery if I'm not mistaken (it takes longer to be cleared for high impact work like cutting and plyometrics though). So that means Rose has likely been cleared for jogging and track work for months. Wall was just cleared for light impact work a few weeks ago. That's not to say that John should necessarily be in the condition that he's in now (although he'll be fine from a cardio perspective in a few weeks I'd bet), but Rose has definitely been able to do significantly more floor work than John over these last few months.

It should be noted that John's diet has been terrible from day one with the Wizards. He's like Chad Ochocinco in that he eats tons of crap every day, it's just that he's incredibly active throughout the week so the junk food doesnt stick to him like it does to us. It doesn't surprise me that without the freedom to do the type of work that he's known for in DC that he'd pick up weight assuming he didnt make any alterations to his diet.

Rose has been working the entire time, though. I'm not trying to bash Wall, but I really hoped that he was serious about taking his game to another level. Here's Rose below doing the upper-body work that Wall should have also been doing:

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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#32 » by nuposse04 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 9:12 pm

BIGGIEsmalls 23 wrote:
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BIGGIEsmalls 23 wrote:Here's another player below that's been out rehabbing a leg injury like Wall:

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It's obvious that one guy has been working, while the other hasn't.


To be fair to John, people can run and do any number of cardio workouts around 4 months afteran acl surgery if I'm not mistaken (it takes longer to be cleared for high impact work like cutting and plyometrics though). So that means Rose has likely been cleared for jogging and track work for months. Wall was just cleared for light impact work a few weeks ago. That's not to say that John should necessarily be in the condition that he's in now (although he'll be fine from a cardio perspective in a few weeks I'd bet), but Rose has definitely been able to do significantly more floor work than John over these last few months.

It should be noted that John's diet has been terrible from day one with the Wizards. He's like Chad Ochocinco in that he eats tons of crap every day, it's just that he's incredibly active throughout the week so the junk food doesnt stick to him like it does to us. It doesn't surprise me that without the freedom to do the type of work that he's known for in DC that he'd pick up weight assuming he didnt make any alterations to his diet.

Rose has been working the entire time, though. I'm not trying to bash Wall, but I really hoped that he was serious about taking his game to another level. Here's Rose below doing the upper-body work that Wall should have also been doing:

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I think the excess muscle weight might have played a factor in Wall's knee injury. He's fairly built for a 6'4 pg, once he gets back in shape I'd like to see him lose 4-5 lbs of additional weight from last years playing weight.
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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#33 » by BubbaTee » Tue Jan 8, 2013 9:15 pm

call.me.dude wrote:Losing the fat should be easy. Problem is that he also lost muscle if he really didn't do a whole lot.

edit: I honestly thought he wanted to turn his career around. Not saying he can't or won't but if he was really into it, he would still be in great shape (like Rose).


Yeah, I read an ESPN Magazine interview with him in the preseason where he sounded motivated.

I guess maybe you could make the argument that he got depressed when he found out he'd miss the start of the season, and went all

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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#34 » by FlashKing » Tue Jan 8, 2013 9:17 pm

Time to bring in the big guns!

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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#35 » by crowd goes wild » Tue Jan 8, 2013 9:29 pm

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LEHGOCELTICS wrote:That looks like a much greater fat gain than 6-7 lbs to me.


Muscle is heavier than fat (edit: by volume), so he could have had muscle turn to fat without gaining weight, then gain 7-lbs of fat on top of that.

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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#36 » by AmazingJason » Tue Jan 8, 2013 9:32 pm

Is the 1st pic Wall or Felton? :lol:
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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#37 » by youngthegiant » Tue Jan 8, 2013 9:40 pm

even with those other pictures shown, he definitely doesn't have six-pack anymore. Which is ridiculous.
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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#38 » by Apathy » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:00 pm

LEHGOCELTICS wrote:That looks like a much greater fat gain than 6-7 lbs to me.


Not necessarily.

When you have an ectomorph body type, and normally have a lower body fat %, you look a lot more bloated and out of shape when you gain a few pounds more than you should have. Particularly if it's all bad weight gain, like eating junk food.

But the flipside is that with 4-6 weeks of focus on strength, conditioning and flexibility, as well as diet, you will lose it almost as quickly as you gained it.

That's why you see a lot of basketball players show up out of shape. They oscillate between being extremely health-conscious and, when they have downtime, pigging out. But their body is used to exercising, and responds very quickly to rigorous workouts.

The bigger problem with something like that is it hints that Wall is a bit of a mental midget, which, of course, is the knock.
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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#39 » by M4P » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:05 pm

BubbaTee wrote:
LEHGOCELTICS wrote:That looks like a much greater fat gain than 6-7 lbs to me.


Muscle is heavier than fat (edit: by volume), so he could have had muscle turn to fat without gaining weight, then gain 7-lbs of fat on top of that.
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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#40 » by darth_federer » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:08 pm

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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#41 » by sipclip » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:43 pm

He may have only gained 7 pounds but it is likely that he has gained 20 pounds up top and lost 13 pounds from his lower body. That is a huge amount to gain for a professional athlete that should be on a world class nutrition program.
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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#42 » by bledredwine » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:00 pm

Well, in that shape he'll just be playing like Derrick Rose.


Cause well, RealGM taught me that Derrick Rose is John Wall's floor.
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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#43 » by BarnabyJones » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:06 pm

bledredwine wrote:Well, in that shape he'll just be playing like Derrick Rose.


Cause well, RealGM taught me that Derrick Rose is John Wall's floor.



Really? When was that?
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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#44 » by 22haytham22 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:09 pm

Wow...
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Darain wrote:Dude is like 6-10, 6-12 at the most
But he is definitely not 7 foot
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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#45 » by 22haytham22 » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:10 pm



You can clearly see how much slimmer he is here
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Darain wrote:Dude is like 6-10, 6-12 at the most
But he is definitely not 7 foot
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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#46 » by TheToothFairy » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:14 pm

I don't know when that picture was taken but that's not good for a franchise player
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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#47 » by bledredwine » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:20 pm

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bledredwine wrote:Well, in that shape he'll just be playing like Derrick Rose.


Cause well, RealGM taught me that Derrick Rose is John Wall's floor.



Really? When was that?


Wall's rookie season, before draft as well.
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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#48 » by Clyde Frazier » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:57 pm

Yeah that pic isn't pixelated or anything.
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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#49 » by Iplaytolose » Wed Jan 9, 2013 12:08 am

He'll lose that in no time. Athletes that get hurt naturally gain weight, but they lose it quickly because of muscle memory. Another example of muscle memory is MMA. A lot of fighters bloat up when they're not fighting, but they can go back to being ripped in within a few months because of muscle memory.
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Re: John Wall Has Gotten FAT 

Post#50 » by Dear Leader » Wed Jan 9, 2013 12:09 am

BodieB wrote:So he gained 6-7 pounds and couldn't lift? He definitely shouldn't be that pudgy.

Basketball players eat a ton of food while going through high-level physical activities everyday.

You simply don't cut off your eating habits the moment you got injured. So imagine them eating a lot while not doing anything. This is why boxers gain a lot of weight as well.

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