CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo

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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#16 » by BubbaTee » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:18 am

DarkAzcura wrote:Hollinger!!! haha, this can't be all him, but it'd be funny if it was


Hollinger makes sense for shopping Gay, but Zbo has good stats. His 20.1 PER is best on the team.
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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#17 » by Bubstubbler » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:18 am

Z-Bo for Pau

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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#18 » by RIPskaterdude » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:20 am

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xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:Cousins and Z-Bo on the same team? Oh no. No no no no no.


obviously the price for zbo would be a package around cousins


I'd rather have Cousins on my team than Z-Bo :dontknow:
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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#19 » by Bubstubbler » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:24 am

In all seriousness, Pau would go into full-on beast mode if he were teamed up with Marc back in Memphis.

And Dudley would be a wonderful replacement for Gay.

Overall, exchanging Z-Bo/Gay for Pau/Dudley/1st (with Beasley probably thrown in as salary filler) makes Memphis better imo.
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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#20 » by Edumacated » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:27 am

I think management doesn't believe the current team can beat the Clippers or Thunder in the second round.
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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#21 » by Mr_Perfect » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:30 am

Edumacated wrote:I think management doesn't believe the current team can beat the Clippers or Thunder in the second round.


Yeah but I just think it's stupid to make a trade now. Wait till after the playoffs are over at least.
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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#22 » by AmazingJason » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:30 am

They want to trade their best player to save money...but they apparently have the funds to hire no-talent scrub John Hollinger.
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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#23 » by ManualRam » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:31 am

i doubt they want to get rid of both. just one. if they can't get a decent return for gay, they'll try to get good value for z-bo. it sucks, but avoiding the tax is a must for them.
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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#24 » by jowglenn » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:34 am

BubbaTee wrote:
DarkAzcura wrote:Hollinger!!! haha, this can't be all him, but it'd be funny if it was


Hollinger makes sense for shopping Gay, but Zbo has good stats. His 20.1 PER is best on the team.


Well doesn't it make sense to shop the guy who can net the best return?

Also, Randolph is the oldest guy on the team. Seems logical to trade that guy away.
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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#25 » by blizzard » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:37 am

OMG, they have a 22-10 record and want to blow it up and enter the lottery? What are they thinking? Hollinger sucks big time.
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Post#26 » by Nanogeek » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:39 am

I suspect Hollinger wants to trade these guys while their value is at the highest.
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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#27 » by humblebum » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:42 am

Celtics would die and go to heaven if they could somehow land Z-Bo... There's been a lot of smoke between Boston-Sacramento... would love to see a three way for Z-Bo!
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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#28 » by [GR] » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:42 am

Hollinger on some next ****.
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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#29 » by Jon Niednagel » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:51 am

Bubstubbler wrote:In all seriousness, Pau would go into full-on beast mode if he were teamed up with Marc back in Memphis.

And Dudley would be a wonderful replacement for Gay.

Overall, exchanging Z-Bo/Gay for Pau/Dudley/1st (with Beasley probably thrown in as salary filler) makes Memphis better imo.


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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#30 » by DusterBuster » Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:04 am

DarkAzcura wrote:Hollinger!!! haha, this can't be all him, but it'd be funny if it was


I find it funny that people keep blaming Hollinger as though he is the Grizzlies GM.

I really don't see why the Grizzlies are freaking out about the tax. They aren't grossly over the luxury tax threshold.

I can understand why they would want to get rid of both Gay and Randolph in some regards. Gay, for what he brings, is VASTLY overpaid. SF's of similar quality generally make around 10mil, give or take a few mil one way or the other. So he's overpaid at least 7-9 mil per year.

And while ZBo is playing great, he's no spring chicken anymore and he's going to start hitting the downside of his career fairly soon, so this might be their last season to cash in on him while his value is high. They also have Speights who, while certainly not as good as ZBo, should be a solid starter and only a fraction of the cost.

If they're convinced this roster has peaked and can't make it over the hump, then blowing it up isn't the worst thing in the world. That said, I can't understand why they wouldn't want to wait until the summer to do it though and give this roster one last run.
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Post#31 » by PetroNet » Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:15 am

in before "zbo for bradley/sullinger"
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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#32 » by Mamba Venom » Wed Jan 9, 2013 2:22 am

BubbaTee wrote:
DarkAzcura wrote:Hollinger!!! haha, this can't be all him, but it'd be funny if it was


Hollinger makes sense for shopping Gay, but Zbo has good stats. His 20.1 PER is best on the team.


Mathematically it just makes sense to blow it up. E=MC trade. zoingan.
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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#33 » by StocktonShorts » Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:11 am

This is the luxury tax at work: hindering small to mid market teams that have a nice core of players from building a championship contender.
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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#34 » by nykballa2k4 » Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:19 am

PetroNet wrote:in before "zbo for bradley/sullinger"


nah man, Bradley is too good. The most I would give is Bass and Green, maybe a 2nd round pick or Fab Melo.
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Re: CBS report: Grizzlies also considering moving Z-Bo 

Post#35 » by SacKingsPejaFan » Wed Jan 9, 2013 3:35 am

That's just stupid crazy management. Other teams with 10 losses: Miami, San Antonio. I guess they should blow it up too? Especially San Antonio because they're not a guaranteed top 3 team in the league? Teams with 11 losses: New York and Golden State? Yeah, they should really blow it up too. Let the team compete. They never had Gay and Randolph healthy for a playoff run. Let them build chemistry and give it a try. They beat San Antonio without Gay--anything can happen in a 7 game series. Detroit won without superstars. Unless Memphis is planning to assemble a super-team somehow, they shouldn't be messing with Conley/ZBo/Gasol/Gay. From the teams they're talking to, it sounds like they're looking to blow it up and rebuild, which is just foolish. It's not like they're Atlanta where they're a perennial middle-seeder...this team can go places.

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