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Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Postby Mk0 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:34 pm

TheToothFairy wrote:Wait. I already though Brooklyn were already contenders?


:lol: :lol:

So.. uh.. Are the Nets are trying to absorb every awful contract in the league. Rudy will make 19mil in 2 years. Why would you do this to yourself?
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Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Postby Beardman on Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:36 pm

Might become worse.
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Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Postby Krodis on Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:43 pm

The thought of the Nets paying THAT starting lineup all that money is HILARIOUS.
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Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Postby Ronito on Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:46 pm

The Nets are better off with Wallace than Gay. I don't want Rudy Gay.
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Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Postby ClayDavis on Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:54 pm

gerald wallace is one of the few guys in the league who could play the 4, but wouldnt they have to include him in the deal?
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Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Postby Marvin Martian on Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:18 pm

DusterBuster wrote:
nickforthreee wrote:can score at will, put the team on his back, come up big in clutch moments, completely take over a game. parsons is a role player. a good one yes, but a role player.


Besides that one Toronto game, what other "clutch moments" has Rudy ever had?

I saw him during a tight game with the Blazers last week and he completely disappeared when the game was close late. He also never "took the game over".

I don't know what player you're watching, but he's not the Rudy Gay I've ever seen.


He took over the end of the DEN game a couple weeks back by scoring a couple of critical buckets when the game was close. The assertion that Parsons is better than Gay is ridiculous. Who cares how much he is getting paid? So many players are getting max contracts these days i can't see how anyone can make an underlying assumption that max contract = max performance.

Back on topic Gay is around 6-9 so he should be able to play the 4 and have a semi melo-like impact on the floor.
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Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Postby Krodis on Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:23 pm

Parsons is a similar rebounder, better passer, better defender, and better shooter than Gay. He's scoring 14 on decent efficiency to Gay's 18 on miserable efficiency.

Seriously, 18 points on sub- .500 TS%. That's just miserable. It's not even Iverson or Monta Ellis volume chucking. It's 17.8 points a game!
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Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Postby Doctor MJ on Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:38 pm

nickforthreee wrote:im not sure if it would make them a contender but i think they would definitely be an elite team with him. they need a go to scorer and joe johnson just aint cuttin it.

PG: D-Will
SG: JJ
SF: Rudy
PF: Hump
C: Lopez

thats a lineup that can make some noise. hump should get traded for someone better tho but he can rebound and the other 4 are solid even tho dwill isnt great this year


Gay's overrated in basically the exact same way Johnson was. This would be making almost exactly the same mistake over again.
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Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Postby PetroNet on Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:02 am

Mk0 wrote:
TheToothFairy wrote:Wait. I already though Brooklyn were already contenders?


:lol: :lol:

So.. uh.. Are the Nets are trying to absorb every awful contract in the league. Rudy will make 19mil in 2 years. Why would you do this to yourself?


what difference does it make how much rudy gay makes? he expires in 3 years. the nets are over the cap/tax for the next 4 years whether gay makes 19m or the league minimum
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Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Postby PetroNet on Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:03 am

Doctor MJ wrote:
nickforthreee wrote:im not sure if it would make them a contender but i think they would definitely be an elite team with him. they need a go to scorer and joe johnson just aint cuttin it.

PG: D-Will
SG: JJ
SF: Rudy
PF: Hump
C: Lopez

thats a lineup that can make some noise. hump should get traded for someone better tho but he can rebound and the other 4 are solid even tho dwill isnt great this year


Gay's overrated in basically the exact same way Johnson was. This would be making almost exactly the same mistake over again.



im not sure joe johnson was a mistake. id rather have:

Joe Johnson, and be over the cap for the next 4 years.

then

Gaines, Morrow, Petro, late first rounder and be over the cap for the next 4 years.
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Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Postby phx#7 on Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:10 am

DusterBuster wrote:Why is Rudy Gay so polarizing? People either insanely overrate him or think he's pure trash.

The truth is right in the middle. He's a solid player, but he's not good enough to change a teams fortunes. He's a ideal 3rd option on a team with 2 superstars. That's not trash, but he's not a star either.


The people who think he's trash only feel that way because of his contract. If he were making half of what he is I think most people would think well of him. However with him making 18mil per and producing the way he is I certainly view him as a net negative.
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Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Postby ricochet on Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:28 am

nickforthreee wrote:
Darain wrote:How about the other games where he shoots his team out of games by not passing it to Randolph?


im not a grizz fan and really dont watch them much but ive never seen rudy gay as a ballhog. he has a bad shot selection sometimes but to say that he is a terrible player and that roleplayers are better than him is laughable.


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He sucks as the main option and is not worth his contract.
Gay will make the Nets worse. Zbo would make them a contender.
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Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Postby jjscap on Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:37 am

Gay is a knucklehead with no idea what's he's doing on the court. Players like this make their team worse no matter their athletic abilities.
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Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Postby ricochet on Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:47 am

Marvin Martian wrote:
He took over the end of the DEN game a couple weeks back by scoring a couple of critical buckets when the game was close. The assertion that Parsons is better than Gay is ridiculous. Who cares how much he is getting paid? So many players are getting max contracts these days i can't see how anyone can make an underlying assumption that max contract = max performance.

Back on topic Gay is around 6-9 so he should be able to play the 4 and have a semi melo-like impact on the floor.


What? Would you prefer a crack whore from the streets for 10,000$ or a Victoria's Secret model?

Owners care. Fans care.
18 mil.. hmmm.. lets see who else makes that.. LeBron you say..
Lets say he was making 7-8 mil i.e What he is worth. The 10 mil they save + whatever they can get for some other players etc and they could've hypothetically traded for Harden. that would've put them over the top. Rudy Gay does not put them over the top. In-fact they are unable to get over the hump because of him.
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Re: Does Brooklyn with Rudy Gay make them a contender?

Postby qotsa on Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:09 am

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