basketball IQ is a made up stat.

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Post#31 » by sprint2thecup » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:07 am

eablinksum wrote:99% of statistics are made up.


nice.
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Post#32 » by Zubby » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:07 am

sprint2thecup, The better question is why take it so literal?
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Post#33 » by shawngoat23 » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:07 am

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Post#34 » by sprint2thecup » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:10 am

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jstnw89 wrote:How can it be a made up stat? It's not even a stat because it's not quantifiable.


that's exactly my point.

Intelligence Quotient (IQ) IS quantifiable. there is an examination that produces a quotient such as 98 or 112. if you cannot get that quotient, then it's NOT an IQ.

IQ has a correlating number, always.


Right so you're a fundamentalist who has trouble with nuance.

People say "BBIQ" because it's quick and easy to say. They mean "basketball intelligence"


i'm glad we agree.

i just wish people would stop parading it around like it's truly quantifiable, and not just subjective. people always say stuff like "LOL westbrook has no basketball IQ", it's dumb. why bother adding the term "quotient" when it's clearly not there?
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Post#35 » by jstnw89 » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:11 am

"LOL westbrook is a really dumb player", better?
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Re: basketball IQ is a made up stat. 

Post#36 » by Doctor MJ » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:12 am

sprint2thecup wrote:i just wish people would stop parading it around like it's truly quantifiable, and not just subjective. people always say stuff like "LOL westbrook has no basketball IQ", it's dumb. why bother adding the term "quotient" when it's clearly not there?


Pretty much no one anywhere has ever said the word "quotient" when talking about basketball. They use IQ as an abbreviation for intelligence because they don't want to have to say or spell "intelligence", that's all.
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Post#37 » by nyhuskyfan » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:13 am

And nobody should say "wingspan" until players actually grow wings and start flying.
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Post#39 » by bigbreakfast » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:14 am

which region has the highest bbqiq? memphis? texas? carolinas? kansas city?
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Post#40 » by jamesnamida » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:14 am

basketball, like any other sport, is a subject that you can study.
you study the theory behind the game, the plays, etc.
then you practice in real life, get to know the speed of the game, actually seeing the passing lanes and passing the ball.

not so different from being a surgeon.
study it in theory, practice it in real life. get better.

Everyone has a best subject, and with today's advanced developments in science, the increasing volumes of history and literature, it's harder to become a polymath.
Most of us are specialized in a field.

but doesn't mean that we are all equals in such fields. depends on how much effort is put in, successful ways of learning and practicing, and most importantly, how your brain has developed since childhood. your ability to absorb new information. of course, more so than sports, there's many other elements in professional fields, mainly social-economical elements, that pertain to your success.

However, physical, genetic elements pertain to the success of sports more so than most other fields.

basketball IQ is only maximized if you have the physical tools too.
Even if you see open lanes in your mind, if you're too slow to get there, well then.

basketball iq can be quantified as much as a SAT test. but it's what it is, doesn't mean that much.

but no theres no current quantification in the league today, just people saying player x has good iq, based on their on court decisions, which reflect on their understanding of how the game is played, and what is the best move for each situation.

though i do believe players who pick up and understand basketball 5vs5 theory quickly and easily, can be successful in most other fields than a player who just doesn't get it.
Mostly because of their ability to learn new things, they probably know the most successful way for themselves to learn and think.
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Post#41 » by Guy986 » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:14 am

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Post#42 » by JDs_loot » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:16 am

Inigo_Montoya wrote:Epic straw man


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Post#43 » by EzeDoesIt » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:18 am

This is a funny topic :)

But just to clarify, BBIQ is a basketball term, not really any different from the way "rebound" is a basketball term. The words mean different things in a basketball context.

BBIQ just seems to be your awareness on the court (offensive only, as players like Nash/ Kobe tend to get credited with amazing BBIQs but not players like Dwight [when he was good]).
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Post#44 » by sprint2thecup » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:18 am

jstnw89 wrote:"LOL westbrook is a really dumb player", better?


if you really mean it then yes, but westbrook ISN'T a dumb player. the "basketball IQ" slang term is made up exactly to attack good players like westbrook, who ball hard but do not appear intelligent.
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Post#45 » by sunskerr » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:26 am

nyhuskyfan wrote:It's a colloquial term. It isn't math. Nobody has ever pretended it was math.

Why do they talk about "wingspan". That's not biologically accurate. Nobody is playing with feathers.


Well, I dont know about that...

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Post#46 » by EH15 » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:27 am

Holy sh*t, someone had a bad day
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Post#47 » by EArl » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:28 am

sunskerr wrote:
nyhuskyfan wrote:It's a colloquial term. It isn't math. Nobody has ever pretended it was math.

Why do they talk about "wingspan". That's not biologically accurate. Nobody is playing with feathers.


Well, I dont know about that...

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Post#48 » by MrBigShot » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:29 am

jstnw89 wrote:How can it be a made up stat? It's not even a stat because it's not quantifiable.


Word. BBall IQ is a way of describing a player's smarts and overall feel for the game. It isn't a stat, like rebound percentage or assist to TO ratio.
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Post#49 » by Cklbmk » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:36 am

Someones mad that Westbrook got called out for making dumb plays.


Just because someone hasn't made a test for it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Did IQ or intelligence exist before the 19th century? By your logic it didn't because a test hadn't been made for it.

Just because we can't give it an exact number doesn't mean we don't have a feel where people would place compared to others.
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Post#50 » by sunskerr » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:37 am

eablinksum wrote:Velociraptors dont have feathers they have scales.


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