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8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:39 am
by Hook_Em
Why is everyone assuming you need 48 wins to make it in the WC this year. Last year means nothing. The current 8th seed has 21 wins with the season halfway done. No offense to either team but Houston is collapsing and I don't see Utah making it with their schedule.
/rant
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:41 am
by jym85
Lakers and Dallas 7th and 8th
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:58 am
by Ming Kong!
Hook_Em wrote:Why is everyone assuming you need 48 wins to make it in the WC this year. Last year means nothing. The current 8th seed has 21 wins with the season halfway done. No offense to either team but Houston is collapsing and I don't see Utah making it with their schedule.
/rant
Utah has played more road games (tied with Denver) than any team in the NBA so far, and they still sit in 7th, so you may want to rethink that. Anyways, it's still early, I think the record for the 8th seed is a going to be better. I think atleast one of LAL, Dallas, or Minnesota will get into the playoff race.
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:18 am
by HotrodBeaubois
Ming Kong! wrote:Hook_Em wrote:Why is everyone assuming you need 48 wins to make it in the WC this year. Last year means nothing. The current 8th seed has 21 wins with the season halfway done. No offense to either team but Houston is collapsing and I don't see Utah making it with their schedule.
/rant
Utah has played more road games (tied with Denver) than any team in the NBA so far, and they still sit in 7th, so you may want to rethink that. Anyways, it's still early, I think the record for the 8th seed is a going to be better. I think atleast one of LAL, Dallas, or Minnesota will get into the playoff race.
I think it will be one of Dallas and Lakers for the 8th seed it all depends on how Utah does for both to make it.
Minnesota,Portland and Houston all free falling
Houston 42 games left
24 games left against playoff teams or Dallas and Lakers
7-12 .368% on the Road 22 Road games left 12 of those Road games against playoff teams or Dallas and Lakers
4-10 .286% against Playoff teams or Dallas and Lakers on the road
7-15 .318% against the West 30 games left against the west 16 of those games on the road 0-9 against the west on the Road
3-7 .300% against the Div . 6 Division games left . 3 of those on the road 0-5 on the road against the Div
9 Back2 Backs left including their next 2 games @ Indiana @ Minnesota
Portland 43 games left
33 games left against playoff teams or Dallas and Lakers
21 Road games 16 of those against playoff teams or Dallas and Lakers
7 Back2Backs left
Portlands lack of a Bench will be their downfall
Minnesota How long is Love out like 2 months ? Without Love Minnesota will not make the playoffs!!
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:19 am
by LoneyROY
Hornets for the 8th seed.
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:20 am
by BigLurch92
LoneyROY wrote:Hornets for the 8th seed.
with the way they're playing i wouldnt doubt it
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:21 am
by heatwillbeback
Lakers have a bunch of road games upcoming. Thats the key issue with them. They have gotten through the easier part of their schedule.
If they get in though, it wont be fun for the top 1 or two seed facing them.
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:22 am
by rottenzombie
Ming Kong! wrote:Hook_Em wrote:Why is everyone assuming you need 48 wins to make it in the WC this year. Last year means nothing. The current 8th seed has 21 wins with the season halfway done. No offense to either team but Houston is collapsing and I don't see Utah making it with their schedule.
/rant
Utah has played more road games (tied with Denver) than any team in the NBA so far, and they still sit in 7th, so you may want to rethink that. Anyways, it's still early, I think the record for the 8th seed is a going to be better. I think atleast one of LAL, Dallas, or Minnesota will get into the playoff race.
Minny is likely done, with two more major injuries tonight on Pekovic and Shved, two of their best players that had been relatively healthy.
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:24 am
by supaflash
Yeah I didn't buy this at all when people were saying it the last few weeks. The west is deep and teams are going to beat up on each other. Houston and GS haven't played a ton of west games yet. GS is going to have proably 17-18 losses in the next 2 weeks. The race is going to be tight all year. the 4-10 come the end of the year will all probably be within a couple losses of each other.
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:40 am
by RunSunRun
Some team will get hot close to the end of the season, it seems to always happen in the West. It'll probably be one of Utah, Houston, or Portland.
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:44 am
by ClayDavis
the current 7 and 8th seeds are on a 42 win pace so this is the the likely win total
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:02 am
by HotrodBeaubois
Houston
18 Games played against the East 14-4
22 Games played against the West 7-15
10 Games played against the West on the Road 1-9
6 Games played against West playoff teams or Dallas on the Road 0-6
12 Games played against the West @ Home 6-6
8 Games played against the West Playoff teams or Dallas @ Home 2-6
4 Games played against West Lottery teams Except Dallas @ Home 4-0
12 Games left to play against the East .778 win %
6 Games left to play against the East on the Road
3 Games left to play against East Playoff Teams on the Road
3 Games left to play against East Playoff teams @ Home
30 Games left to play against the West .318 Win%
16 Games left to play against the West on the Road .100 Win%
8 Games left to play against West Playoff teams or Dallas on the Road .000 Win%
14 Games left to play against the West @ Home .500 Win%
9 Games left to play against West Playoff teams or Dallas @ Home .250 Win%
Houston Wont make it ... I dont think Houston will end up with more than 38-40 Wins
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:14 am
by branny
With Curry out for now and Love also out that COULD be 2 teams easily out.
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:20 am
by HotrodBeaubois
branny wrote:With Curry out for now and Love also out that COULD be 2 teams easily out.
How long is Curry out?
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:39 pm
by 9abovetherim
HotrodBeaubois wrote:branny wrote:With Curry out for now and Love also out that COULD be 2 teams easily out.
How long is Curry out?
7-10 Days
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:34 pm
by ShowTimeERA
heatwillbeback wrote:Lakers have a bunch of road games upcoming. Thats the key issue with them. They have gotten through the easier part of their schedule.
If they get in though, it wont be fun for the top 1 or two seed facing them.
Exactly. At this point seeding is irrelevant. Its about playing well going into the playoffs...I'm positive no team out West wants to play LA in the first round...
That's the difference between the East/West. Out East, you have a 1st and 2nd round bye while out West you play LA, Dallas, Denver, etc. in the 1st round...
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:39 pm
by Durant 35
Won't that get like 3rd seed in the east?
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:42 pm
by anish23
i wish the mavs were in the eastern conference
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:45 pm
by torotoe
ShowTimeERA wrote:heatwillbeback wrote:Lakers have a bunch of road games upcoming. Thats the key issue with them. They have gotten through the easier part of their schedule.
If they get in though, it wont be fun for the top 1 or two seed facing them.
Exactly. At this point seeding is irrelevant. Its about playing well going into the playoffs...
I'm positive no team out West wants to play LA in the first round...
That's the difference between the East/West. Out East, you have a 1st and 2nd round bye while out West you play LA, Dallas, Denver, etc. in the 1st round...
Denver's probaby going to be the 4 seed this year, watch out.
In response to the part I bolded: yeah, no team wants to be at the mercy of the refs. It's sad that the refs do so much for the lakers.
Re: 8th seed in the West will only need 43-44 wins IMO
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:47 pm
by 9abovetherim
torotoe wrote:ShowTimeERA wrote:heatwillbeback wrote:Lakers have a bunch of road games upcoming. Thats the key issue with them. They have gotten through the easier part of their schedule.
If they get in though, it wont be fun for the top 1 or two seed facing them.
Exactly. At this point seeding is irrelevant. Its about playing well going into the playoffs...
I'm positive no team out West wants to play LA in the first round...
That's the difference between the East/West. Out East, you have a 1st and 2nd round bye while out West you play LA, Dallas, Denver, etc. in the 1st round...
Denver's probaby going to be the 4 seed this year,
watch out.In response to the part I bolded: yeah, no team wants to be at the mercy of the refs. It's sad that the refs do so much for the lakers.
Yeah watch out, they just lost to the Wizards. They will finish 5th and gonna lose to the Grizzlies in 6.