Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game?

Moderators: Morten Jensen, Blame Rasho, UGA Hayes, Doctor MJ, Yuri Vaultin, NO-KG-AI, Mark K, tsherkin, magnumt, Flash3

User avatar
dice
RealGM
Posts: 20,739
And1: 3,590
Joined: Jun 30, 2003
Location: chicago

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#31 » by dice » Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:51 pm

this year? hell yes. he's had an amazing return to form after years of predictable post-prime downward drift
http://www.kiva.org
better than charity
User avatar
MrBigShot
Head Coach
Posts: 7,106
And1: 1,962
Joined: Dec 18, 2010

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#32 » by MrBigShot » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:04 pm

Yes he deserves it. He should continue to make the all star game every year he's in the league imo, until he is no longer a starter caliber player. In other words, likely ever year.

The dude is a legend and putting up nearly 30/5/5. Yes his team is garbage, but it isn't all on him. Teams lose together, teams win together...their defense as a team is poor.
"They say you miss 100% of the shots you take" - Mike James
User avatar
kobe808lak
Rookie
Posts: 1,010
And1: 42
Joined: Mar 05, 2008

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#33 » by kobe808lak » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:35 pm

Replace Kobe with Dwight and your thread makes sense.
User avatar
Arp590
Junior
Posts: 440
And1: 42
Joined: Jul 02, 2009

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#34 » by Arp590 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:12 pm

fallacy wrote:
Arp590 wrote:Leads league in scoring 29.6PPG

/Thread


Durant actually leads the league in scoring. Kobe 29.2, Durant 29.5


/thread?

Actually when I posted that, Kobe was still leading the league in scoring...
Are you gonna quote me again in a couple days saying that actually Carmelo leads the league in scoring?
User avatar
druggas
Analyst
Posts: 3,152
And1: 396
Joined: Dec 27, 2007

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#35 » by druggas » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:26 pm

BobbySura wrote:how about you discuss?

why make this thread if you aren't going to give your opinion?

oh yeah, that's right. you're trolling.

of course the mods are probably too busy closing some thread that's actually decent to close this.
WhatRickyThinks
Sophomore
Posts: 192
And1: 16
Joined: May 07, 2009

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#36 » by WhatRickyThinks » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:28 pm

Did he not receive the most votes or did I forget the criteria for starting the all-star game?
User avatar
Winsome Gerbil
Head Coach
Posts: 6,180
And1: 2,122
Joined: Feb 07, 2010

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#37 » by Winsome Gerbil » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:29 pm

kobe808lak wrote:Replace Kobe with Dwight and your thread makes sense.


Perhaps, but the problem in both cases is who would really start over them? For Kobe it would be..James Harden? I suppose you could go Paul/Westbrook, but there is no SG more deserving. For Dwight it would be...Marc Gasol?? A 14pt 7reb guy? Really? I'm a Cousins believer myself, but you just can't do that until they win, and he proves he's settled down. Maybe next year. So you've got two HOFs on a struggling team, and then almost nobody of note to replace them, so its kind of a given.
User avatar
LBJ-ITALY
Pro Prospect
Posts: 879
And1: 163
Joined: Apr 22, 2011

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#38 » by LBJ-ITALY » Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:58 pm

Arp590 wrote:
fallacy wrote:
Arp590 wrote:Leads league in scoring 29.6PPG

/Thread


Durant actually leads the league in scoring. Kobe 29.2, Durant 29.5


/thread?

Actually when I posted that, Kobe was still leading the league in scoring...
Are you gonna quote me again in a couple days saying that actually Carmelo leads the league in scoring?

Don't worry! for him Durant is Gesus :D
Image
bwgood77
RealGM
Posts: 10,729
And1: 1,569
Joined: Feb 06, 2009
Location: Austin
   

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#39 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:01 pm

It's close. Westbrook probably deserves it more.
Dr Pepper
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,927
And1: 312
Joined: Jun 10, 2010

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#40 » by Dr Pepper » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:11 pm

Depends on the reserves, the Spurs need some rep and Tony Parker seems to be having another career best year as an overall player although Duncan's resurgence needs credit too
Kobe vs MJ "Clone Wars" NBA.com video:

Frosty wrote:Funny this is called Clone Wars because Kobe is like the second installment of the Star Wars series. It looked like Star Wars but came up short. But it did appeal to the kiddies.
User avatar
Jase
RealGM
Posts: 13,051
And1: 148
Joined: Aug 01, 2008
Location: Grand Rapids, MI.

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#41 » by Jase » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:18 pm

I realize that they're really, really awful right now, but the dump-taking on the Lakers is a bit extreme. This thread....it's ridiculous.
"A winner listens. A loser just waits until it's their turn to talk."
User avatar
izZo
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,296
And1: 9
Joined: Feb 14, 2012
Location: 305

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#42 » by izZo » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:34 am

kobe808lak wrote:Replace Kobe with Dwight and your thread makes sense.
Image
User avatar
JoseRizal
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,399
And1: 166
Joined: Oct 21, 2010

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#43 » by JoseRizal » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:37 am

Yes. But hopefully, no NBA Defensive 1st team citation this season...
User avatar
inquisitive
RealGM
Posts: 12,027
And1: 780
Joined: Aug 27, 2010

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#44 » by inquisitive » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:59 am

JordansBulls wrote:The Rockets lost 7 in a row and Harden hasn't been playing that well lately either. But I would start Harden simply because the game is in Houston.


it's ok ...they might give him the mvp for the game anyway. :wink:
A rare look at Saenchai's Son sparring with our newest fighter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A3mrtK95q0
User avatar
thewhat
Pro Prospect
Posts: 855
And1: 109
Joined: Sep 08, 2008

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#45 » by thewhat » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:13 am

Is the sky blue?
I heard mofos saying they made Kobe/ Made Kobe say, "Ok so, make another Kobe"
User avatar
Bskey
Veteran
Posts: 2,550
And1: 140
Joined: Jun 16, 2008

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#46 » by Bskey » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:21 am

Starters are who the fans want to see...so yeah.
User avatar
Basileus777
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,758
And1: 123
Joined: Jul 13, 2007
Location: New Jersey
 

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#47 » by Basileus777 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:49 am

Two teams under .500 have two starters each in the all-star game. I guess the non-winning team stigma only applies to smaller markets.
Illmatic21
Veteran
Posts: 2,950
And1: 554
Joined: Mar 01, 2009

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#48 » by Illmatic21 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:44 am

Basileus777 wrote:Two teams under .500 have two starters each in the all-star game. I guess the non-winning team stigma only applies to smaller markets.

Being a future HOFer gives you a bit of a boost.
EscapoTHB
Suspended
Posts: 6,841
And1: 929
Joined: Nov 26, 2011

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#49 » by EscapoTHB » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:34 am

Moreso than Dwight does.

Sent from my Kindle Fire using Tapatalk 2
BubbaTee
Head Coach
Posts: 6,394
And1: 536
Joined: Mar 10, 2008

Re: Does Kobe really deserve to start in the All-Star Game? 

Post#50 » by BubbaTee » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:30 am

Miasma wrote:
C.Delfino wrote:
SUN wrote:I think those stats are a little empty.


When was the last time a guy averaging almost 30 ppg was left out of the ASG?


World B. Free missed it with 28.8ppg in 78-79. Tiny Archibald with 28.0 in 71-72. Purvis Short with 28.0 and Dominique with 27.4 were left off in 84-85. The most recent omission was probably Carmelo in 05-06 at 26.5. Doesn't happen too often.


Arenas was averaging 28ppg the year Melo got snubbed. Arenas was initially snubbed too, he only got in as an injury replacement.


As far as the empty stats thing goes, it does sort of remind me of the year Stackhouse averaged 30 ppg in Detroit for a 50-loss Pistons team. He made the ASG that year.

Basileus777 wrote:Two teams under .500 have two starters each in the all-star game. I guess the non-winning team stigma only applies to smaller markets.


Fans have never cared about team record, it's the coaches who care about that stuff.

Return to The General Board