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Post#91 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:14 pm by grizzistanbul

Sasha Vujacic is not heading to Memphis. Playing with Efes at Turkey and rumor has it he has no clause to leave for an NBA offer. Efes is at Top 16 Stage of Euroleague and Sasha is one of the important players for that team.

Like if i want him on my Grizzlies, hell no.

This pick is so crazy. cha_77_bobcats is so right about this. But it made me think that the Grizzlies are setting the stage for some other big trades. So there will be, most likely to me, no departure of Z-Bo and Gay, at least one of them will already be traded.

From TBJ's Fix, yesterday, heard that Kenyon Martin started to consider offers for vet min. but still even Heat went to Chris Andersen. That would be, i guess, ok if we sign Delonte West(don't like him) and Kenyon Martin.

Conley/Bayless
TA/West
Gay/Q-Pon
Z-Bo/Arthur/Leuer
Gasol/Martin/Haddadi

Will take us to most likely through the first round then we will lose.
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Post#92 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:17 pm by BD12

Hollins said he'll play around with lineups and will experiment with Tony Wroten at the 1, Bayless at the 2, and Allen at the 3.

So Bayless is now playing Ellington's role and Tony Wroten has filled the back-up PG duties
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Post#93 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:28 pm by Axel

Memphis gave up too much to get under the cap. Here's to hoping it bites them in the ass, just like the Vazquez trade. I have ZERO sympathy for cheapskate billionaires. Memphis was one of the worst franchises in the NBA and it can quickly become that again.
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Post#94 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:34 pm by ManualRam

BD12 wrote:Hollins said he'll play around with lineups and will experiment with Tony Wroten at the 1, Bayless at the 2, and Allen at the 3.

So Bayless is now playing Ellington's role and Tony Wroten has filled the back-up PG duties


he's just talking about the pieces that the team has. once they officially sign their vet FAs, i expect wroten to be planted exactly where he belongs.
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Post#95 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:42 pm by chrbal

Grizzlies will sign Delonte West and probably two others because of this trade. They are at 11 players and Leuer is not a rotation player. They are supposedly talking to Samardo Samuels, the ex-cav. And say what you want about him, but I would bring in Josh Childress for a workout. Awful with the Nets, but at a pure minimum he could at least be good depth.
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Post#96 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:49 pm by ferk

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Post#97 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:50 pm by Jake0890

Great trade for Memphis. They don't have to trade Gay or anyone else now. I'd say for the Cavs this was a pretty lateral move.
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Post#98 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:52 pm by No Offense

Jake0890 wrote:Great trade for Memphis. They don't have to trade Gay or anyone else now. I'd say for the Cavs this was a pretty lateral move.


They traded a guy that they picked up off waivers, who only played 91 minutes on the season, for a lottery pick.
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Post#99 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:55 pm by teamgrizz

A lottery pick?

Its going to be hard for Cleveland to come out of this with a lottery pick. It's protected very well.
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Post#100 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:02 pm by sisibilio

teamgrizz wrote:A lottery pick?

Its going to be hard for Cleveland to come out of this with a lottery pick. It's protected very well.

It's a bit of a gamble but do you think MEM will make the playoffs for the next 5 years?
If they keep a core of Conley-Gay-Gasol they could, but 5 years in the NBA is an eternity.
If you want to try to measure the elements of basketball that are supposedly unmeasurable, spend a game just watching Marc Gasol.
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Post#101 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:04 pm by No Offense

teamgrizz wrote:A lottery pick?

Its going to be hard for Cleveland to come out of this with a lottery pick. It's protected very well.


The pick Memphis sends to Cleveland is protected 1-5 and 15-30 in 2015 and 2016; 1-5 protected in 2017 and 2018; unprotected in 2019.

Either the Cavs will get a lottery pick in 2015 or 2016 (6-14) or they will get a pick in the 6-30 range in 2017 or 2018. If that doesn't happen, they get whatever their pick is in 2019.

Calling it a lottery pick was a stretch. That was wrong of me. But there's certainly potential for it to happen there.
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Post#102 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:22 pm by TheOUTLAW

miltk wrote:wow. cle has traded 6 first rounders since 2010. they're the anti-okc.


They have?
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Post#103 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:28 pm by Jase

I'd be surprised if this is the best cost-cutting deal MEM could get.
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Post#104 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:44 pm by cavs4life03

as a cavs fan im really happy for this trade we get a 1st round pick for a player we picked last offseason through waiver and we get 3 players in return thats amazing.
young players + cap space + draft picks = bright future
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Post#105 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:57 pm by Ziggy Stardust

No Offense wrote:
teamgrizz wrote:A lottery pick?

Its going to be hard for Cleveland to come out of this with a lottery pick. It's protected very well.


The pick Memphis sends to Cleveland is protected 1-5 and 15-30 in 2015 and 2016; 1-5 protected in 2017 and 2018; unprotected in 2019.

Either the Cavs will get a lottery pick in 2015 or 2016 (6-14) or they will get a pick in the 6-30 range in 2017 or 2018. If that doesn't happen, they get whatever their pick is in 2019.

Calling it a lottery pick was a stretch. That was wrong of me. But there's certainly potential for it to happen there.


I think the odds of them getting a lottery pick is much higher than them not getting a lottery pick.

So a nice injection of young talent, and a probable Lottery pick for jon Leuer.

as an added bonus it looks like Delonte is going to get another chance in the league.

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Post#106 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:59 pm by ferk

Grizz sign Chris Johnson and west.
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Post#107 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:05 pm by POWER

I've read that they will sign D.West and Bill Walker. That's a pretty backup players over here
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Post#108 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:17 pm by dolphinatik

Well Cleveland imo has no excuses now they got5 exactly what they needed in a Big and a sg. They shouldnt be as bad as they are. I think they can try to make a run to pull .500 and grab the 8th seed. Its a stretch but Speights can step in for Varejao and Ellington and Selby should be able to provide scoring. They seriously have the shortest roster and need to start incorporating their bigs.
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Post#109 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:20 pm by teamgrizz

Yea, I think Cleveland did come out well in the deal. They really didn't lose much. I don't think you guys would like Speights, though. He gave his best effort here because Lionel Hollins demanded it. I'm not sure if he will return back to his old 76ers self or what in Cleveland.

Selby still has a lot of potential and he just needs a chance. Not to mention, you guys did get the pick. Ellington provides more shooting for your squad.
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Post#110 Re: Grizzlies trade Speights to CLE
Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:22 pm by TheOUTLAW

You actually think that this deal was supposed to propel the Cavs into the playoffs? It strengthens their bench, but that's about it.
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