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Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:27 pm
by TaylorMonkey
Frank Mulely wrote:One thing Nellie knew how to do was draft. I was laughing when he fell to us, no chance he was getting past old Yeltsin-West.

As for Steph's future, either his ankles hold and he's a HOF and at least a top-3 shooter all-time or his ankles don't hold and he'll be a commentator.

I don't think Steph will be a commentator. He mumbles way too much. I can see Lee or Barnes doing that, however.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:57 pm
by nickforthreee
guys just to clarify to whoever was mentioning larry bird, steve nash, peja, and dirk to me they are all def top 10 shooters all time but what im saying is i couldnt make an argument for any of them to hold that #1 spot. ray and reggie right now are the only ones to me who could be considered the absolute best due to everything i said before, shooting a high volume on a high percentage, able to come off screens and move without the ball, able to be extremely clutch, and score 20+ points while doing it. able to be efficient and also having the ability to hit extremely difficult shots. and by no means do i think curry is better than any of them right now, im saying how good could he be.... im not sure he can pass those 2 guys but i think he could be a top 5 shooter of all time imo.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:14 pm
by shawngoat23
His kid is going to be warming up with him shooting threes before a game.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:31 pm
by Young_Star11
Just an amazing shooter. Not sure how his ankles hold up because it is clear who the team MVP of Golden State is.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:43 pm
by DreDay
What is really impressive is that a lot of his 3 pointers are off the dribble where he creates space then shoots. It's a low percentage shot but Curry hits them at a very high rate. There was a great article on hoopshype which showed this.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:36 am
by Al Swearengen
With a thread title like this, it had to be done:

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Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:51 am
by Sleep
No Chris Mullin?

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:58 am
by StocktonShorts
I've seen a lot of "Steph Curry is the greatest shooter ever" threads and tweets lately. Usually those are the types of discussions you have AFTER a guy has played 10+ years, not after ~200 games.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:51 am
by nickforthreee
StocktonShorts wrote:I've seen a lot of "Steph Curry is the greatest shooter ever" threads and tweets lately. Usually those are the types of discussions you have AFTER a guy has played 10+ years, not after ~200 games.


definitely didnt say that. asked do u think he will be in the conversation 15 yrs from now. big difference. personally i dont think he will ever pass ray and reggie but i think he can make a case for top 3-5 all time

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:19 am
by Flash Falcon X
I doubt Curry will even be able to play big minutes 10 years from now. He's a PG and that position will take a toll on his body since he'll be trying to run the team. His age will make him a liability and as a result he won't be playing as much which will lower his 3pt attempts.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:29 am
by StatLine
15 years from now, he'll still have bad ankles

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:34 am
by Ian4
Frank Mulely wrote:
SacTown916 wrote:No love for Peja?


biggest choker imaginable. being a great shooter includes hitting big shots IMHO.

you need to stop posting for the day

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:14 am
by Axel
Jeff Hornacek would like to make a case:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE3OP95yo3g[/youtube]

So would the best 3pt shooter in the NBA today:

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CxtI8fdFaE[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRbS_W0k_pw[/youtube]

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:18 am
by JoseRizal
StatLine wrote:15 years from now, he'll still have bad ankles

This. I'm not even sure he'll reach 15 years playing... but he's an elite shooter nonetheless.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:32 am
by nyhuskyfan
I'm a Ray Guy (heh heh, that one never gets old), but there is one player in my lifetime who I think I'd take over him and who everyone always forgets, since his career was tragically cut short as he was hitting his prime. If Drazen Petrovic got an open look, and the ball did not go in, I was stunned.

Ray always hurt his percentages in his prime - the Seattle years especially - by taking ridiculously high degree of difficulty threes all the time. He'd fade over double teams, shoot when curling off a screen without squaring, pull up from 28 feet on a secondary break, etc. Although Curry does the same sort of things, too.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:44 am
by TaylorMonkey
Axel wrote:Jeff Hornacek would like to make a case:

So would the best 3pt shooter in the NBA today:

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By what measure?

Curry's the second leading shooter in percentage and volume this season. He's only 4 behind Ryan Anderson and the most accurate of the volume shooter guys. Bonner has a higher percentage but shoots about a fifth of what Curry does.

Korver has a lower percentage on a third less makes. Curry also blows him away on career percentages.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:05 am
by Brovva Blaqq
Frank Mulely wrote:As for Steph's future, either his ankles hold and he's a HOF and at least a top-3 shooter all-time or his ankles don't hold and he'll be a commentator.


I agree.

Strangely enough I don't like or appreciate Curry's game at all... :oops:

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:53 am
by Galis4
nickforthreee wrote:There to me have only been 2 guys that you could consider for greatest shooter ever and those would be Ray Allen and Reggie Miller. They in my opinion are head and shoulders above everybody else when you factor in shooting, coming off screens, moving without the ball, clutch factor etc.... but man Stephen curry i feel like in 15 years he could be in the conversation with those guys as one of the best ever to shoot it. I could watch him shoot it all day, in fact i think he has the nicest looking stroke ever besides jesus shuttlesworth. So what do you guys think? Barring injuries can this guy make it into that conversation? I think he could pass reggie millers makes but depending on how much longer ray ray plays that record might be hard to beat.



In 15 years from now you feel.....? :o :D
Let 5 years pass and then we can have some "data" to talk.

You all seem to forget the incredible Steve. Steve Kerr. OK ok he wasn't a starter and his weapon was mainly the 3s, but we are talking about ability to shoot so his unbelievable 3 years of having more than 50% at the 3 point area with a very very good amount of shots attempted and the overall 45.4%(!!!!), is something that shouldn't go unnoticed. He was the most consistent shooter i have seen, although not with a big repertoire. :D But it doesn't matter, personal ability to create own shoots etc, is irrelevant in this conversation as we are talking about the best shooter.
And Kerr with 5 rings(kinda irrelevant), with clutch championship winning shots and 45.4% at the 3pt line in the end, is a very good case.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:31 pm
by TaylorMonkey
Galis4 wrote:
nickforthreee wrote:There to me have only been 2 guys that you could consider for greatest shooter ever and those would be Ray Allen and Reggie Miller. They in my opinion are head and shoulders above everybody else when you factor in shooting, coming off screens, moving without the ball, clutch factor etc.... but man Stephen curry i feel like in 15 years he could be in the conversation with those guys as one of the best ever to shoot it. I could watch him shoot it all day, in fact i think he has the nicest looking stroke ever besides jesus shuttlesworth. So what do you guys think? Barring injuries can this guy make it into that conversation? I think he could pass reggie millers makes but depending on how much longer ray ray plays that record might be hard to beat.



In 15 years from now you feel.....? :o :D
Let 5 years pass and then we can have some "data" to talk.

You all seem to forget the incredible Steve. Steve Kerr. OK ok he wasn't a starter and his weapon was mainly the 3s, but we are talking about ability to shoot so his unbelievable 3 years of having more than 50% at the 3 point area with a very very good amount of shots attempted and the overall 45.4%(!!!!), is something that shouldn't go unnoticed. He was the most consistent shooter i have seen, although not with a big repertoire. :D But it doesn't matter, personal ability to create own shoots etc, is irrelevant in this conversation as we are talking about the best shooter.
And Kerr with 5 rings(kinda irrelevant), with clutch championship winning shots and 45.4% at the 3pt line in the end, is a very good case.

Kerr, as good as he was, had a few years with the shortened 3 point line. If you take those years away, then Curry's current career average exceeds his. Curry also takes many more per game than Kerr did. If you qualify and normalize the stats, Curry's on pace to be the greatest long range bomber. Even more impressive is that most of his shots are unassisted.

Re: Stephen Curry 15 years from now

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:04 pm
by TwentyOne920
And unlike many 3 point specialist Curry shoots a significant percentage of his bombs off the dribble. :o

He's not just a catch and shoot guy like Korver/Novak/Bonner.