Scal takes on challengers

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Re: Scal takes on challengers 

Post#31 » by ItsSensei » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:01 am

I don't know how people can doubt any NBA players lol, they practice with the greatest every day.
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Post#32 » by Dupp » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:19 am

Im just wondering does everyone play one on one like this in america? Its like a video game. I'm use to keeping the ball live and going for rebounds and stuff.
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Post#33 » by jdm_dc_fan » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:27 am

I think I'm the only one who actually was given Scal more credit before the pickup game? :oops:
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Post#34 » by deliriousmouse » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:36 am

Scal still has 12 years of professional basketball on everyone on this forum.
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Post#35 » by TheWhiteMamba » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:59 am

Well, no surprise that an NBA ALL-TIME LEGEND as the White Mamba can ball.
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Post#36 » by branny » Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:04 am

ItsSensei wrote:I don't know how people can doubt any NBA players lol, they practice with the greatest every day.
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Post#37 » by Flash Falcon X » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:52 am

That seems like a really funny video to watch, I wish I could watch it on my phone right now but it's not showing up. I'll make sure to watch it when I'm on my laptop, though.

But yeah, I'd love to see some benchwarmers in the NBA play against some of these people, too. Some people always talk crap about 12th men who never get any playing time.

I noticed the talent difference of the NBA and other players this season when Kent Bazemore of the Warriors would get sent down to the D-League. Kent gets no playing time with the Golden State Warriors because he lacks an offensive game, yet when he got sent down to the D-League he scored like 27 points so effortlessly and got a couple steals, too. It's crazy how big the talent gap is between the NBA and other players.
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Post#38 » by spearsy23 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:53 am

To put the 'good college players could have beat him' notion into perspective, scal averaged 18ppg in college. Obviously as a big he's not going to be the best one on one guy.
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Post#39 » by dundundun » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:25 am

Articles about this keep mentioning that one of the guys he beat "played" at Syracuse last year. Kind of misleading; it's not like he was playing Dion Waiters, dude was a walk-on
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Post#40 » by DanTown8587 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:39 am

I don't think Scal is a good 1-1 matchup for guys who are not in the league because he has great "average" size and he's a fundamental player. I think Scal is better than a lot of current players in the league in this kind of format. What I would be interested to see is someone like Keith Bogans play someone. Someone with size but not massive.
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Post#41 » by diablerouge » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:44 am

ItsSensei wrote:I don't know how people can doubt any NBA players lol, they practice with the greatest every day.

there are a few exceptions. i'm from montreal and i played against joel anthony in HS. he has never averaged double digit scoring at any level (hs, prep, juco, ncaa, pros) - dude just can't score.

he played in a competitivve pro-am in montreal (lots of ncaa kids from mtl and former euro pros) two summers ago and wasn't dominating offensively at all. of course, no one could score and he was swatting every layup in the stands tho!
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Post#42 » by therealbig3 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:52 am

DanTown8587 wrote:I don't think Scal is a good 1-1 matchup for guys who are not in the league because he has great "average" size and he's a fundamental player. I think Scal is better than a lot of current players in the league in this kind of format. What I would be interested to see is someone like Keith Bogans play someone. Someone with size but not massive.


Bogans might not look massive, but he would probably just bully people like Scal did.

Even a dude like Kobe, who looks really lanky compared to other NBA players, is like a tank compared to an average person. There's a video where he played Bow Wow 1 on 1, and although it wasn't very impressive, Bow Wow looks absolutely pathetic from a physical standpoint, even disregarding the height difference. I'm sure Bow Wow is built like an average person though.
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Post#43 » by Birth of the Cool » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:58 am

Scal was playing guys for the most part smaller than him and he was still missing lots of shots. How about the TV shows Joes vs Pros...former really good NBA players were beaten in 3on3 matchups vs guys who played college ball or whatever....NBA former pros were beat more consistently then Joes who played against former NFL or MLB guys.

Also, yeah I don't get the dead ball after a FGA rule. Is this common? As a lazy one-on-one player I would like to incorporate this into my summer one-on-one games lol.
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Post#44 » by pacers33granger » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:13 am

I think there is a bigger gap between NBA players and normal people than most think, but you have to remember that Scal is like 6'9 and has a good jumpshot. That's about enough to beat 99.9% of people on the street.
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Post#45 » by LoveDaBoo » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:25 am

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DanTown8587 wrote:I don't think Scal is a good 1-1 matchup for guys who are not in the league because he has great "average" size and he's a fundamental player. I think Scal is better than a lot of current players in the league in this kind of format. What I would be interested to see is someone like Keith Bogans play someone. Someone with size but not massive.


Bogans might not look massive, but he would probably just bully people like Scal did.

Even a dude like Kobe, who looks really lanky compared to other NBA players, is like a tank compared to an average person. There's a video where he played Bow Wow 1 on 1, and although it wasn't very impressive, Bow Wow looks absolutely pathetic from a physical standpoint, even disregarding the height difference. I'm sure Bow Wow is built like an average person though.

Right. When Linsanity broke out, someone posted this old video one of Lin's friends had made for youtube where he "plays one on one" with Lin. It wasn't a serious contest, because the friend quite obviously was nowhere near skilled enough to play someone of Lin's caliber, but what was interesting about the video is how huge Lin looked. I never thought of him as looking particularly strong watching him in the NBA, but in that video, next to a normal human being, he just looked huge. You forget how big and strong NBA guys are because they're constantly on the floor with 9 other guys who are also huge.
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Re: Scal takes on challengers 

Post#46 » by hype_2004 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:37 am

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bballcool34 wrote:Obviously he's an NBA player and immensely talented/skilled but that first game (the guy who played on 'Cuse last year) basically just told me that there are definitely a good amount of college dudes that can beat him if they have the size.

scalabrine is retired, keep that in mind. Obviously andrew wiggins and jabari parker could beat him


Ha this is arguable, in the game of one on one, size and power always gets the best of speed and quickness. Scal would just post them up all day and the game is over.
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Post#47 » by hype_2004 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:39 am

KyletheDingbat wrote:The strength difference is immense.


You don't realize how strong some of these NBa bigmen are after years of proffessional weight training, Scal has a strong base, even in the NBa he wasn't a pushover in the post now against these amateurs you just know he will dominate.
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Post#48 » by FlashFlare » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:44 am

Lakers need to sign Scal if they want to save their season. Can't have the Black Mamba without the White Mamba. It's like Yin and Yang.
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Post#49 » by DynastySS » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:49 am

Honestly, he looked horrible out there.
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Post#50 » by mandurugo » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:58 am

Dutuctive Depp wrote:Im just wondering does everyone play one on one like this in america? Its like a video game. I'm use to keeping the ball live and going for rebounds and stuff.


It seemed like a variation on one of the most common ways of playing: make it - take it. In that style if you score you get to keep the ball on offense. But even in that style, most play the ball like it is live until someone scores. Common variations for that style are to allow the defensive player attempt to score the ball on airballs (without checking it behind the 3-point line) or attempting to score the bound on a rebound without landing first.

Of course, the best way to play 1vs1 is normal boundary rules (out of bounds ball goes to other guy), check the ball at 3 point line after scores (changing possession, i.e. not make it - take it), if the defensive player gets a rebound he must still bring it out past the 3 point line before attempting a shot. This forces players to consistently play both offense and defense, is much more similar to a 5vs5 game, and is more fun. It's not the most common way, especially not on playgrounds.

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