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Post#1 Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:20 pm by kakaman

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Post#2 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:24 pm by 420

Haven't really checked, but do people still have Durant as a candidate? LBJ has won both head to head matchups in convincing fashion (including overcoming the officiating in both matchups).
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Post#3 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:26 pm by PCProductions

420 wrote:Haven't really checked, but do people still have Durant as a candidate? LBJ has won both head to head matchups in convincing fashion (including overcoming the officiating in both matchups).

It ain't over 'til it's over. Despite these past 2 weeks, Durant was a heavy favorite given the team record and voter fatigue. Anything can happen in these last 30 odd games, but Lebron is the current favorite.
In the playoffs there is a tendency to assign traits that aren't actually there based on glimpses that don't actually matter.
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Post#4 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:27 pm by JayClips92

No love for CP3?
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Post#5 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:32 pm by kakaman

JayClips92 wrote:No love for CP3?


Missed too many games. In a race this close, even minor things like games played will be taken into account.
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Post#6 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:32 pm by Bluewaterheaven

Why isn't Josh Smith being considered? He is clearly the only reason the Hawks aren't dead last in the league. Horrible, Horrible team with out J-Smooooooooooth.
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Post#7 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:33 pm by Colbinii

JayClips92 wrote:No love for CP3?

Its hard to win MVP when you are going up against 2 of the best players ever, both of which are in their prime or entering their prime.
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Post#8 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:38 pm by The4thHorseman

If it was called "offensive MVP" then Durant would get the nod right now. But we all know that what's done on the defensive end is taken into consideration. That's why it's James right now and it's no that close.
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Post#9 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:38 pm by MrHidden

JayClips92 wrote:No love for CP3?


no "kevin" love for cp3
lebron and durant is in their own league :wink:
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Post#10 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:46 pm by Rotanimod

Bluewaterheaven wrote:Why isn't Josh Smith being considered? He is clearly the only reason the Hawks aren't dead last in the league. Horrible, Horrible team with out J-Smooooooooooth.


Because nobody watches/likes the Hawks
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Post#11 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:53 pm by Woodsanity

The4thHorseman wrote:If it was called "offensive MVP" then Durant would get the nod right now. But we all know that what's done on the defensive end is taken into consideration. That's why it's James right now and it's no that close.

So offense doesn't include playmaking now?
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Post#12 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:56 pm by Antrim

Woodsanity wrote:
The4thHorseman wrote:If it was called "offensive MVP" then Durant would get the nod right now. But we all know that what's done on the defensive end is taken into consideration. That's why it's James right now and it's no that close.

So offense doesn't include playmaking now?


No sir, nobody cares about playmaking. Being a -slightly- better jumpshooter and worse in every other single offensive skill makes you a better offensive player. Didn't ya know that?
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Post#13 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:57 pm by KingCuban

Bluewaterheaven wrote:Why isn't Josh Smith being considered? He is clearly the only reason the Hawks aren't dead last in the league. Horrible, Horrible team with out J-Smooooooooooth.


Really?

He isn't even top 10.
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Post#14 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:58 pm by arifgokcen

The4thHorseman wrote:If it was called "offensive MVP" then Durant would get the nod right now. But we all know that what's done on the defensive end is taken into consideration. That's why it's James right now and it's no that close.

No he wouldnt.Lebron would still be the MVP.

Offense is not just scoring and lebron is doing that just as good.
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Post#15 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:02 pm by Bluewaterheaven

Dude, ill give you the benefit of the doubt that you were trying to be funny, but please, no more.

You will be warned next time.
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Post#16 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:06 pm by The4thHorseman

Woodsanity wrote:
The4thHorseman wrote:If it was called "offensive MVP" then Durant would get the nod right now. But we all know that what's done on the defensive end is taken into consideration. That's why it's James right now and it's no that close.

So offense doesn't include playmaking now?

Yeah, you do have a point. Not sure how much "playmaking' criteria factors in with the voters.
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Post#17 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:15 pm by NYK_89

PCProductions wrote:
420 wrote:Haven't really checked, but do people still have Durant as a candidate? LBJ has won both head to head matchups in convincing fashion (including overcoming the officiating in both matchups).

It ain't over 'til it's over. Despite these past 2 weeks, Durant was a heavy favorite given the team record and voter fatigue. Anything can happen in these last 30 odd games, but Lebron is the current favorite.

Duant was not a heavy favorite by any means most media types were 50/50 on it and their minds are pretty much made up now.
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Post#18 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:17 pm by NYK_89

The4thHorseman wrote:If it was called "offensive MVP" then Durant would get the nod right now. But we all know that what's done on the defensive end is taken into consideration. That's why it's James right now and it's no that close.

It would be a travesty is Durant won "Offensive MVP" over Lebron.. Lebron is doing the same scoing at similar efficiency and is one of the best playmakers in the game
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Post#19 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:06 pm by cb4_89

Durant is more efficient at scoring the ball than Lebron. Durant is not the better offensive player than Lebron. You take defense into account, and it is a bit of a joke. Though MVP voters don't take defense into account really. That is why Durant even has a chance if he blows up or Lebron struggles a bit.
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Post#20 Re: Race to MVP IV
Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:20 pm by kamelion4291

cb4_89 wrote:Durant is more efficient at scoring the ball than Lebron. Durant is not the better offensive player than Lebron. You take defense into account, and it is a bit of a joke. Though MVP voters don't take defense into account really. That is why Durant even has a chance if he blows up or Lebron struggles a bit.

He's more efficient at scoring the ball purely on the amount of free throws he gets. LeBron has a sizeable lead in eFG% which takes the subjective element of referees out of the equation.
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