Kevin Garnett refused to waive his no trade clause

Johnny Firpo · Post #21 » by **Johnny Firpo** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:01 pm

bball34 wrote:Who cares about his legacy with Boston? Ten years later, all people see is the number of rings you had won.

Not really.

DwayneSchintzus · Post #22 » by **DwayneSchintzus** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:05 pm

It doesn't surprise me. He's more comfortable going balls out in a lost cause like the Celtics this season than having the pressure of actually winning in June.

He's never wanted the ball in crunch time and he's always showing off. This way he gets to talk a lot and no matter what happens everyone will be all "ooohhh KG is so passionate and loyal."

FOH

spacemonkey · Post #23 » by **spacemonkey** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:12 pm

Seems to me he didn't want to leave a man behind (PP).

Heat fan06 · Post #24 » by **Heat fan06** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:13 pm

too loyal for his own good..

420 · Post #25 » by **420** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:15 pm

Good for KG, but I think he should've just retired. Can't blame him though, Ainge threw $36mil/3yrs at him. Smart move by KG to get the no-trade clause knowing he'd be probably be traded around the league for the next 3 years. Good to see him show loyalty to Boston.

RolloTommasi · Post #26 » by **RolloTommasi** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:17 pm

bball34 wrote:Ray Allen must laugh at him.
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Kevin Garnett will have his jersey retired in Boston, Ray Allen won't

WVSArtist · Post #27 » by **WVSArtist** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:48 pm

He would have been a good fit for the Clippers but I think he made the right move.

Deathclutch23 · Post #28 » by **Deathclutch23** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:54 pm

KG has won MVP, DPOTY, more all nba teams, all defensive teams, all star mvp, and better carer stats. He was also the centerpiece of the Celtics team that won championship.

Now tell me why Ray Allen would laugh at him?

This IsMy House · Post #29 » by **This IsMy House** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:54 pm

RolloTommasi wrote:
bball34 wrote:Ray Allen must laugh at him.
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Kevin Garnett will have his jersey retired in Boston, Ray Allen won't

Oh then KG got the last laugh for sure! :roll:

Dupp · Post #30 » by **Dupp** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:55 pm

Jakay wrote:
bball34 wrote:Who cares about his legacy with Boston? Ten years later, all people see is the number of rings you had won.

Kind of like Larry Brown and Pistons right?

Or how no one remembers Karl Malone or John Stockton.

This. Plus it also matters to him. Which is much more important than what we think. Its his career.

I did want to see him go to LA though they would have been a hell of a team.

Cavs0623 · Post #31 » by **Cavs0623** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:57 pm

RolloTommasi wrote:
bball34 wrote:Ray Allen must laugh at him.
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Kevin Garnett will have his jersey retired in Boston, Ray Allen won't

Ray Allen is on a contending team with a good chance to win a ring
jersey retired>Rings?

leolozon · Post #32 » by **leolozon** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:00 pm

Bodhi wrote:
bball34 wrote:
YiJiLi wrote:He doesn't need to clutch CP3's balls and ride them to another championship. He already won one. He is preserving his legacy with Boston.

Who cares about his legacy with Boston? Ten years later, all people see is the number of rings you had won.

Completely wrong. Staying loyal to a team is a huge boost to your legacy and how you're remembered. In ten years Boston fans will talk up how great KG was anytime he's mentioned. So will his former teammates and coaches. Not to mention the media members who followed the team. That's not going to happen for Allen.

And why would anyone care if Ray Allen wins another ring scoring 10ppg off the bench?

Why are you assuming his reason was loyalty? How is it being loyal if the team thinks it's better for them to trade you? If you like the team, shouldn't you want what's best for the team and get traded?

I just think he didn't want to move at this stage of his career. He has a situation over there, he has a house and a family. I think it's more about being loyal to your family than to the team that wants to trade you.

GreenBloodedC · Post #33 » by **GreenBloodedC** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:07 pm

Cavs0623 wrote:
RolloTommasi wrote:
bball34 wrote:Ray Allen must laugh at him.
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Kevin Garnett will have his jersey retired in Boston, Ray Allen won't

Ray Allen is on a contending team with a good chance to win a ring
jersey retired>Rings?

Having a legacy you could be proud of is greater than being a 5th - 8th option of a championship team.
And Allen haven't even won his second ring yet, who's to say they're sure to win the title. This is so stupid.

And even if Allen wins his 2nd ring, Garnett is way above Allen on the All Time Greatest list, so meh.

RolloTommasi · Post #34 » by **RolloTommasi** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:08 pm

Cavs0623 wrote:
RolloTommasi wrote:
bball34 wrote:Ray Allen must laugh at him.
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Kevin Garnett will have his jersey retired in Boston, Ray Allen won't

Ray Allen is on a contending team with a good chance to win a ring
jersey retired>Rings?

You're right

Adam Morrison 2 rings >> Stockton, Malone, Reggie Miller ZERO rings

Cavs0623 · Post #35 » by **Cavs0623** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:13 pm

Which is why I said have a good chance, no one said they're sure to win one. And I'm fairly certain Ray Allen legacy is something he can be proud of it's not like he isn't a champion, multiple time all-star and the all-time 3 pt leader
^ Because I said that makes them better :roll:

420 · Post #36 » by **420** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:13 pm

RolloTommasi wrote:You're right

Adam Morrison 2 rings >> Stockton, Malone, Reggie Miller ZERO rings

"2 beats 0." - Michael Jordan

RolloTommasi · Post #37 » by **RolloTommasi** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:14 pm

420 wrote:
RolloTommasi wrote:You're right

Adam Morrison 2 rings >> Stockton, Malone, Reggie Miller ZERO rings
"2 beats 0." - Michael Jordan

"Kwame Brown 1st pick" - Michael Jordan

The Boot Room · Post #38 » by **The Boot Room** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:15 pm

it isn't loyalty when 1 side wants to part ways but the other doesn't.

GreenBloodedC · Post #39 » by **GreenBloodedC** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:21 pm

Cavs0623 wrote:Which is why I said have a good chance, no one said they're sure to win one. And I'm fairly certain Ray Allen legacy is something he can be proud of it's not like he isn't a champion, multiple time all-star and the all-time 3 pt leader
^ Because I said that makes them better

Yes, that's why you concluded 2 rings > Retired jersey. That makes sense.

He can be proud of his legacy, he can be happy if he wins his second championship. But we're comparing KG and Allen. If Allen wins 2 more rings KG's legacy is still >>> Than Allen's

This IsMy House · Post #40 » by **This IsMy House** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:28 pm

GreenBloodedC wrote:
Cavs0623 wrote:Which is why I said have a good chance, no one said they're sure to win one. And I'm fairly certain Ray Allen legacy is something he can be proud of it's not like he isn't a champion, multiple time all-star and the all-time 3 pt leader
^ Because I said that makes them better

Yes, that's why you concluded 2 rings > Retired jersey. That makes sense.

He can be proud of his legacy, he can be happy if he wins his second championship. But we're comparing KG and Allen. If Allen wins 2 more rings KG's legacy is still >>> Than Allen's

That’s debatable, Ray is still the all time 3pt leader and one of the best shooters the league has ever seen. Hes got a pretty nice legacy going on his own with or without a second ring.