Did Golden State really turn down a trade for James Harden?

[day1086]

James harden is the most overrated player in the NBA.

Shoots garbage from anywhere except the rim, stats hugely inflated by freethrow attempts, when he drives to the rim he reaches his arm out with the intent of having his arm be hit and flails in attempt to get a call rather than protecting the ball in his pocket and trying to actually score. He's bad from mid range, mediocre from 3, at rim stats inflated by fouls, and highly turnover prone. His raw stats are also largely inflated by pace.

I hate everything about his play style.

no thx.

the only thing that would make me like him is that his driving style would be a perfect match for curry. I would never want him as a first option on a contending team though.

[Jazza2319]

only those who dont know bball wondered if harden would succeed as a number 1 option... he had every tool... size, athletic, shooting ability, able to finish with contact and get to the line, handles...

dude was poised to break out... if this is true, yet another example of a team's ownership caring more about money than winning... which is truly sad and pathetic

The only reason people questioned his ability to be a number 1 option was because he played like crap in the finals, and most people assumed he was getting his numbers against other team's benches without looking at the advanced stats

If this trade were the case, then GSW certainly missed out on possibly being a Western Conference Champion contender next year and going forward. You still would have had Curry, Lee, Bogut and Harden. Unless the trade involved swapping Perkins with Bogut as well, i'm not sure how they could've passed up that trade

Considering OKC kept Perkins in the HOU deal, I think it's very plausible the deal was Klay Thompson/Harrison Barnes/draft picks.

That's what i thought at first but i wasn't sure about trading rookies

Warrior fans, would you have done Harden & Perkins for Bogut & Thompson? It's a pretty interesting idea, the Warriors are one of the few teams that have the shooting on the floor to minimize Perkins offensive weaknesses

[KrazySixersD]

lol at the guy saying harden is overated ^ lolol

it probly woulda been klay, barnes, and a pick

[whatchaknow]

Typical people overreacting. Nobody even knows the specifics of the trade "proposal" but its safe to say that Klay for Harden straight up was not gonna be the whole trade. I love how people just think Bill Simmons knows what hes talking about, which gms did he talk to get the info on these trades? He does this all the time just watch him before the trade deadline hes constantly offering up these $**** trades saying "who says no?", like he is some great gm.

Look im not gonna act like i knew that Harden was going to be as good as he is but as a Blazer fan i was willing to give up virtually anything to get my hands on him. But every team is in a different situation and if your not 100% sold on a guy then its hard for gms to pull the trigger, especially when your trading very very good young prospects. The verdict is still out on Thompson and Beal but its safe to say they have shown enough to not make it look idiotic of their gms to not trade them.

I think we should praise Houston for seeing the potential of James and being willing to fork out what they did, instead of chastise these other teams for not giving up what other teams were also not willing to give up. If that makes sense ??

[TexansFanatic]

James harden is the most overrated player in the NBA.

Shoots garbage from anywhere except the rim, stats hugely inflated by freethrow attempts, when he drives to the rim he reaches his arm out with the intent of having his arm be hit and flails in attempt to get a call rather than protecting the ball in his pocket and trying to actually score. He's bad from mid range, mediocre from 3, at rim stats inflated by fouls, and highly turnover prone. His raw stats are also largely inflated by pace.

I hate everything about his play style.

no thx.

the only thing that would make me like him is that his driving style would be a perfect match for curry. I would never want him as a first option on a contending team though.

Yup... you're just a hater. Nothing you've said is accurate. Keep sipping the haterade.

[day1086]

Yup... you're just a hater. Nothing you've said is accurate. Keep sipping the haterade.

At the rim: 60.9%

In the paint: 34.5%

mid-range: 37.3%

corner 3: 37.5%

beyond the break 3: 35.9%

what did i say that was wrong?

[Goldtop]

James harden is the most overrated player in the NBA.

Shoots garbage from anywhere except the rim, stats hugely inflated by freethrow attempts, when he drives to the rim he reaches his arm out with the intent of having his arm be hit and flails in attempt to get a call rather than protecting the ball in his pocket and trying to actually score. He's bad from mid range, mediocre from 3, at rim stats inflated by fouls, and highly turnover prone. His raw stats are also largely inflated by pace.

I hate everything about his play style.

no thx.

the only thing that would make me like him is that his driving style would be a perfect match for curry. I would never want him as a first option on a contending team though.

I agree with everything said here, and I'll also add that he plays no defense. You can't be a franchise player if you play no defense. Sorry to the Harden lovers, but its true. But I'm not surprised by the casual fan reaction to him because thats how its always been in the NBA. If you put up big offensive numbers, thats all fanboys care about, and defense is not required by most fans to be considered a star, franchise player, etc, even though in reality its absolutely required if you ever want to win a championship.

[gordito]

Yup... you're just a hater. Nothing you've said is accurate. Keep sipping the haterade.

At the rim: 60.9%

In the paint: 34.5%

mid-range: 37.3%

corner 3: 37.5%

beyond the break 3: 35.9%

what did i say that was wrong?

I'm confused. Why is this a bad thing again? Do Free Throws no longer count as points?

[kasino]

He wasn't a franchise guy before the trade so it's not like the could have known, there's even a thread asking if he's a superstar we knew above average but nobody expected this

[BScoreez]

lol at the guy saying harden is overated ^ lolol

it probly woulda been klay, barnes, and a pick

The Warriors don't have a pick to offer in a trade. They can't trade a 1st until Utah gets theirs. The trade was likely built around Klay and Barnes. It's possible that the Warriors wanted to do the trade, but the Thunder just liked the offer from the Rockets better.

A trade built around Klay and Barnes vs. a trade built around KMart, Lamb, and 2 first round picks one being Toronto's.

[Frank Mulely]

I never miss an opportunity to blast GSW front office but....I don't really believe this one. We didn't have a high 1st rounder to offer. Honestly if they could have gotten Harden, even b combining Klay + Barnes, I think they would have. Houston just had more/better assets: Lamb (rookie with potential), K-Mart (vet on expiring who could fill in well for Harden), Toronto 1st rounder. How was GSW going to top that deal?

Bottom line I think GSW package was probably second choice for OKC.

[Frank Mulely]

lol at the guy saying harden is overated ^ lolol

it probly woulda been klay, barnes, and a pick

It's always best to ignore ballboys on RealGM.

[PetroNet]

is that a mistake? klay thompson is younger and on his rookie contract. im not sure its a slam dunk move to trade that for harden on a max deal.

[Frank Mulely]

is that a mistake? klay thompson is younger and on his rookie contract. im not sure its a slam dunk move to trade that for harden on a max deal.

The point of having cap space is to acquire players who can help you contend....add Harden to GSW roster and we'd be one rotation big away from contention (IMHO). He's EXACTLY what we need.

[KrazySixersD]

yes its a mistake

and if there was no pick... then ya probably klay and barnes... which is a no brainer