Waiters: "Cavs back court> Wiz." Wall responds.

RightToCensor · Post #21 » by **RightToCensor** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:15 pm

Kyrie has 2 appearances to the All-Star game to Wall's 1 WHILE being in the league a year shorter, plus he has an All-Star game MVP award, gold medal, and was voted FIBA's 2014 MVP.

John Wall has 1 playoff and All-Star appearance and....uh... that's it.

Waiters and Beal were taken in the same draft and neither has yet to breakout into true stars.

Kurosawa0 · Post #22 » by **Kurosawa0** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:18 pm

KazuoOda wrote:GS has the best backcourt so this doesn't really matter.

However, dion is right.

Kyrie>Wall
Dion>Beal

Kyrie might be better than Wall. I don't think we know yet, but I kinda lean that way too. Waiters vs. Beal is tougher for the Cavs though. If the Cavs had Beal instead of Waiters they probably could've got Love by trading him and not Wiggins.

Waiters has a big year ahead of him for his career. Could really go either way.

mrmsix6 · Post #23 » by **mrmsix6** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:19 pm

HSOB SIRHC wrote:
Meanwhile...

42.6% FG 1st?

What? That can't be right...

nuposse04 · Post #24 » by **nuposse04** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:20 pm

RightToCensor wrote:Kyrie has 2 appearances to the All-Star game to Wall's 1 WHILE being in the league a year shorter, plus he has an All-Star game MVP award, gold medal, and was voted FIBA's 2014 MVP.

John Wall has 1 playoff and All-Star appearance and....uh... that's it.

Waiters and Beal were taken in the same draft and neither has yet to breakout into true stars.

Neither the all star games or FIBA matter when trying to ascertain worth in regular season NBA game, or playoff games.

You are right on Waiters and Beal, neither are stars yet. You are dreadfully wrong in thinking Kyrie's "accolades" carry any worth right now. Neither Kyrie or Wall should have started for the east this past season in the all star game, it should have been Lowry.

Chuck Newhouse · Post #25 » by **Chuck Newhouse** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:23 pm

mrmsix6 wrote:
HSOB SIRHC wrote:
Meanwhile...

42.6% FG 1st?

What? That can't be right...

I was thinking the same thing!

mademan · Post #26 » by **mademan** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:23 pm

Wall was better than Kyrie last year, though I do see them as being very close as the level of players they are. Same thing with Beal/Waiters. I'd probably take Wall/Beal as they are more proven, though I think Kyrie has the highest upside of all the players in the comparison.

crazytown · Post #27 » by **crazytown** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:24 pm

Dipo/Payton in 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

8-)

HeartBreaking · Post #28 » by **HeartBreaking** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:25 pm

I have to say Lowry+Demar is the best back court, im sure its been mentioned already. And its irrefutable fact

Blame Rasho · Post #29 » by **Blame Rasho** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:28 pm

Yeah it is funny seeing them argue about that title along with fans when both waiters and beal can't even muster a 15 PER.

Waiters was in trade talks and in flux with irving just a season ago.. But yeah you are the best backcourt that earned back to back 1st picks

Kurosawa0 · Post #30 » by **Kurosawa0** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:29 pm

crazytown wrote:Dipo/Payton in 2 years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Man, I hope so. We need that Orlando squad to be an up and coming team.

NBAfan3024 · Post #31 » by **NBAfan3024** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:31 pm

Like that response from Stephen curry.

Illmatic12 · Post #32 » by **Illmatic12** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:31 pm

Blame Rasho wrote:Yeah it is funny seeing them argue about that title along with fans when both waiters and beal can't even muster a 15 PER.

Waiters was in trade talks and in flux with irving just a season ago.. But yeah you are the best backcourt that earned back to back 1st picks

Klay Thompson can't muster a 15 PER either, and he's included in most people's consensus "best backcourt"..

PerFex · Post #33 » by **PerFex** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:32 pm

I can't believe how much Curry and Klay is underrated.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umvu8LoOU8U[/youtube]

kinghasnoequal · Post #34 » by **kinghasnoequal** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:32 pm

Wait are people actually saying Demar/Lowry are the best backcourt in the league?

Blame Rasho · Post #35 » by **Blame Rasho** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:33 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:Yeah it is funny seeing them argue about that title along with fans when both waiters and beal can't even muster a 15 PER.

Waiters was in trade talks and in flux with irving just a season ago.. But yeah you are the best backcourt that earned back to back 1st picks

Klay Thompson can't muster a 15 PER either, and he's included in most people's consensus "best backcourt"..

I have highlighted that before with his max contract conversations on several threads.

RSCD3_ · Post #36 » by **RSCD3_** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:34 pm

kinghasnoequal wrote:Wait are people actually saying Demar/Lowry are the best backcourt in the league?

Yes

Lowry > Curry
DeRozan >>> Thompson

Lol

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DynastySS · Post #37 » by **DynastySS** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:36 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:Yeah it is funny seeing them argue about that title along with fans when both waiters and beal can't even muster a 15 PER.

Waiters was in trade talks and in flux with irving just a season ago.. But yeah you are the best backcourt that earned back to back 1st picks

Klay Thompson can't muster a 15 PER either, and he's included in most people's consensus "best backcourt"..

That is mostly due to the fact that PER is an idiotic means of measuring someone's worth.

kinghasnoequal · Post #38 » by **kinghasnoequal** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:36 pm

RSCD3_ wrote:
kinghasnoequal wrote:Wait are people actually saying Demar/Lowry are the best backcourt in the league?

Yes

Lowry > Curry
DeRozan >>> Thompson

Lol

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No green font so i'm assuming this is not sarcasm?

In that case you're delusional.

DeadHorse · Post #39 » by **DeadHorse** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:37 pm

mrmsix6 wrote:
HSOB SIRHC wrote:
Meanwhile...

42.6% FG 1st?

What? That can't be right...

In the east...

Sign5 · Post #40 » by **Sign5** » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:40 pm

kinghasnoequal wrote:Wait are Raptors fans actually saying Demar/Lowry are the best backcourt in the league?

Fixed.