Better Record/Deeper post season run: Bulls or Clippers?

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Better Record/Deeper post season run: Bulls or Clippers? 

Post#1 » by Purch » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:19 pm

These two teams seem to be the teams that will be close too the top of their conference, but people seem to waiver on their label as contenders( When compared to the Spurs, Thunder and Cavs)

So two questions:

1. Who has the better overall record this season?

2. Who has the deeper post season run?
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Post#2 » by wicked_crossova » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:21 pm

Better Record: Clippers

Deeper Run: Bulls


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Post#3 » by Charlie Sollers » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:21 pm

If Rose stays healthy it should be the Bulls on both points. It's not hard to see a scenario where the Clippers get knocked out in the first round.


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Post#4 » by TDotsfinest97 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:23 pm

1. Clippers
2. Bulls
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Post#5 » by Boarder Patrol » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:40 pm

Both will be in the mid to high fifties but I see the Clippers squeaking out a couple more wins. I think the Clippers are a 2nd round out as usual, Bulls will either be 2nd round or ECF appearance, I think so while its possible they both go out in the 2nd round I see the Bulls making it farther.
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Post#6 » by RaptorNews » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:42 pm

Clippers are a better team even with a healthy Rose

But the Bulls have an easier time in the East
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Post#7 » by Purch » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:46 pm

Personally I'd have to go with the Bulls on both counts. I see them both being high 50 wins, but I don't see the Clippers making the conference finals, whiles I don't see any team stopping Chi from getting there
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Post#8 » by TeabagUK » Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:17 pm

As others have said, really depends on Rose's health but assuming he is well I have to go with Bulls on both counts.
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Post#9 » by CoreyVillains » Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:25 pm

If Chris Paul learns to be aggressive offensively for 4 quarters in the playoffs, the Clippers could beat anyone. If he picks and chooses his spots as usual, they'll be out in round 2. The Bulls should make it to at least the ECF with a healthy Rose. Tons of question marks on both sides.
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Post#10 » by Purch » Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:27 pm

I feel like people are overrating just how much offense thee Bulls eed to be a dominant team

I'll tell you why I belive that

In 2014: 30th in the league in PPG: 28th in the league in Offensive rating (Without Rosé or Gasol)

But they were 1st in the league in opponents points per game and 2nd in defensive rating

They ended up winning 48 games


In 2013 they were: 29th in PPG and 23rd in offensive rating

The ended up winning 45 games


So to me, Rose and Noah don't have to be closed to their 2011 forms for the Bulls to dominate. They just have to be consistent enough offensive threats to lead Chicago to be at least a middle of the pack defensive team. Remember in 2011 when they won 62 games they were 20th in the league in PPG and were 11th in the league in offensive rating.


So my way of thinking is that if their defense has shown that it can produce 45-48 wins by itself, whiles the Bulls were close to dead last in offensive production, then as long as Pau/Noah/Rose are consistent offensive threats then that will be more than enough to get them and addition 8-12 wins. I don't think they have to be close to their 2011 levels. Just good enough to make a league worse offense, averge at least, because their defense can carry them to everything else.
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Re: Better Record/Deeper post season run: Bulls or Clippers? 

Post#11 » by NBAfan3024 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:15 pm

Clippers are a better team to me but it's possible Bulls are going to have both higher odds to go deeper due to being in the East.

That said hopefully clippers get to at least the conference finals.
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Post#12 » by Purch » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:56 pm

Idk, It's hard for me to envision the Cippers being better than Okc or the Spurs
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Post#13 » by Mr Loggins » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:58 pm

both likely gets cashed in the conference Finals, at best
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Post#14 » by majortom71 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:00 pm

both to clippers
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Post#15 » by NBAfan3024 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:07 pm

Purch wrote:Idk, It's hard for me to envision the Cippers being better than Okc or the Spurs

That's fair enough. They have to prove they can do it. I just feel they have everything in place to get it done. I do feel hca could be big this year. I like what clips have done this summer with rivers in his 2nd year it should make them even better.

Both spurs are okc are amazing teams so it will be damn tough that's for sure.
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Post#16 » by og15 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:52 pm

Taking into account that most consider at least 3 of the 4 best teams in the league to be in the West (SAS, OKC, LAC), and that last season, the East #1 and #2 would have been #4 and #5 in the West, the Bulls if fully healthy, as of now, without us seeing any other Eastern team rise to being a "very good" team (Miami's roster isn't bad if they have decent health), odds wise, they are more likely to go further in the playoffs.

Record wise, with decent health on both sides, the Clippers should have the better record. The East is still a favorable place for a very good team to at least make the conference finals, especially one that can year in and year out defend like the Bulls.
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Re: Better Record/Deeper post season run: Bulls or Clippers? 

Post#17 » by Purch » Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:17 am

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Purch wrote:Idk, It's hard for me to envision the Cippers being better than Okc or the Spurs

That's fair enough. They have to prove they can do it. I just feel they have everything in place to get it done. I do feel hca could be big this year. I like what clips have done this summer with rivers in his 2nd year it should make them even better.

Both spurs are okc are amazing teams so it will be damn tough that's for sure.



If Griffin dominates the league this season then you never know. I think it was clear as of last season that Griffin has become the best player on the team, and the best 4 in the nba
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Re: Better Record/Deeper post season run: Bulls or Clippers? 

Post#18 » by JoeyCrawford » Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:42 am

Purch wrote:
NBAfan3024 wrote:
Purch wrote:Idk, It's hard for me to envision the Cippers being better than Okc or the Spurs

That's fair enough. They have to prove they can do it. I just feel they have everything in place to get it done. I do feel hca could be big this year. I like what clips have done this summer with rivers in his 2nd year it should make them even better.

Both spurs are okc are amazing teams so it will be damn tough that's for sure.



If Griffin dominates the league this season then you never know. I think it was clear as of last season that Griffin has become the best player on the team, and the best 4 in the nba


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Re: Better Record/Deeper post season run: Bulls or Clippers? 

Post#19 » by Purch » Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:29 am

Fair point. Ad has a level of potential much higher than nearly every other player in the league
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Re: Better Record/Deeper post season run: Bulls or Clippers? 

Post#20 » by ThunderUp1234 » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:28 am

Clippers.

Bulls.

Not impossible for the Clippers to make the WCF's but so many hard matchups out West while minus Cle, there isnt many hard matchups in the East.

Depends on Rose's health mostly though.

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