Byron Scott

Rob Diaz · Post #1 » by **Rob Diaz** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:43 am

Honestly, how does he have a HC job in 2014?

His style of play is so antiquated. He wants his team to cut out 3-pointers, they're playing slow-paced basketball, not matching up well with today's game, at all. This isn't the Grizzlies, with their post threats and elite defense lol. And this isn't new with Scott, he has always lacked a system.

Shouldn't the NBA be finished with these types of coaches? What's the point of continuing to recycle coaches that failed and haven't evolved? These jobs should be going to new, fresh coaches that want to make a name for themselves and can match today's game.

I thought the Lakers hired him to tank, which I applauded, but I was informed that the Suns have their draft pick.

So, in all honesty, why was Byron Scott hired to be the Lakers coach in 2014-2015?

goodboy · Post #2 » by **goodboy** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:52 am

they said they will pay for their basketball reasons, thus Byron Scott was hired.

Post #3 » by **Slava** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:54 am

That is just not a very good roster to begin with and he's missing 2 PGs, 2 SGs, a PF and a SF. He's trying to run elements of the triangle offense and some Princeton but the scrubs he has now are bungling it pretty hard by either being too lazy to make the proper cuts or just losing the plot.

Not a great coach but not that he has had a chance to implement much either, training camp started like 6 days prior to the preseason and since then its been a procession of injuries.

Ryan Kelly, Swaggy P & Ellington are our better shooters, 2 of them are injured and the other can't score in a brothel right now.

Rob Diaz · Post #4 » by **Rob Diaz** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:00 am

Slava wrote:That is just not a very good roster to begin with and he's missing 2 PGs, 2 SGs, a PF and a SF. He's trying to run elements of the triangle offense and some Princeton but the scrubs he has now are bungling it pretty hard by either being too lazy to make the proper cuts or just losing the plot.

Not a great coach but not that he has had a chance to implement much either, training camp started like 6 days prior to the preseason and since then its been a procession of injuries.

Ryan Kelly, Swaggy P & Ellington are our better shooters, 2 of them are injured and the other can't score in a brothel right now.

I agree that the Lakers' roster is terrible, but that's even more reason to give a new coach a chance to try something different, rather than the same old Byron Scott IMO.

It's tough for a new coach to gain respect from the players at the onset(which is Scott's only strength as a coach IMO), but Kobe and Nash are the leaders in the locker room, all a new coach would have needed is their approval.

Post #5 » by **Slava** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:05 am

Rob Diaz wrote:
Slava wrote:That is just not a very good roster to begin with and he's missing 2 PGs, 2 SGs, a PF and a SF. He's trying to run elements of the triangle offense and some Princeton but the scrubs he has now are bungling it pretty hard by either being too lazy to make the proper cuts or just losing the plot.

Not a great coach but not that he has had a chance to implement much either, training camp started like 6 days prior to the preseason and since then its been a procession of injuries.

Ryan Kelly, Swaggy P & Ellington are our better shooters, 2 of them are injured and the other can't score in a brothel right now.

I agree that the Lakers' roster is terrible, but that's even more reason to give a new coach a chance to try something different, rather than the same old Byron Scott IMO.

It's tough for a new coach to gain respect from the players at the onset(which is Scott's only strength as a coach IMO), but Kobe and Nash are the leaders in the locker room, all a new coach would have needed is their approval.

Which new coach was on the market that could handle a team like that? New coaches look for continuity and low expectations where they can establish themselves and gain some job security. Utah, Philly, Orlando are ideal situations where you can develop some young players and try out ideas in a low expectation environment.

Lakers are going to play Russian roulette with the roster until they hit on a few targets in fee agency and until that happens there's low talent and the usual high expectations that come with a Lakers team. No one wants that on their resume.

The other options were Karl, Rambis, Gentry or God forbid Mike Dunleavy Sr.

Westbreezy · Post #6 » by **Westbreezy** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:35 am

He knows how to be a Laker /thread

Post #7 » by **TyCobb** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:36 am

Nobody else wanted the job.

red32 · Post #8 » by **red32** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:39 am

They chased away MDA, and this is what they got.

RollingWave · Post #9 » by **RollingWave** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:41 am

Rob Diaz wrote:I thought the Lakers hired him to tank, which I applauded, but I was informed that the Suns have their draft pick.

So, in all honesty, why was Byron Scott hired to be the Lakers coach in 2014-2015?

The pick is top 5 protected, so if Scott gets his way they'll probably keep their pick.

But really, he says he's focused on defense but so far their coordination on that end look worse than most D-league team. They're not getting killed simply due to talent / getting blown by, they are making hilarious amateur mistakes every other time down the floor. And that's not even getting to the offensive (literally) part.

The offense is wrecked in every way, he's installing a very complicated system (Princeton + Triangle) on a team thats

a. mostly new
b. mostly inexperienced
c. poor b ball iq among many players
d. few noted to be above average passers
e. been spending most of their time in practice on defense and conditioning drills.

Forget about the no 3s part, the inherent idea of running complicated sets with a dubious crew and with almost no practice to use it, is ridiculous .

They're probably better off just running nothing but Kobe / Lin PnR the whole game.

But why not, if this team is gonna suck, might as well use the opportunity to prove that certain ideas really is terrible.

Kings2013 · Post #10 » by **Kings2013** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:56 am

Feel bad for him... no chance with this roster in this conference and it will just leave a stain on his Laker legacy and will be his last head coaching opportunity

JB2 · Post #11 » by **JB2** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:12 am

Despite the championship rhetoric, Byron is not here to coach this team to wins... he is here to be a buffer for this this franchise as they transition into post-Kobe life. From the morale standpoint, Byron is an incredible fit. Kobe loves him, fans will give him a fair shot, and he brings a championship pedigree to the team that our last two coaches have no idea about.

However, on the floor, Byron is just not a good coach . Obviously that has a lot to do with limited talent but he's just too old school. The game has changed. 3 pointers are an integral part of the game. Neglecting that alone is a huge mistake. Calling Julius lost after 3 games straight only causes him to over think even further. I hope to god Julius takes it as motivation and grows rather than it eating away at him.

Kobe is no doubt one of the greatest players of all time, but as a franchise we are forced to rebuild in stealth mode because he won't call it quits. The story lines are great but unless this team is 100% healthy, it's going to be ugly. Byron's lack of ability to adapt to the modern game is going to be a glaring issue in the next few weeks.

Our focus should be developing Julius, not riding Kobe to try and compete for the 10th seed.

raptor jesus · Post #12 » by **raptor jesus** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:21 am

Scott, D'Antoni, Brown, the organization seems reluctant to give new blood a shot, instead opting for retreads. Obviously Phil worked out as a retread hire; he had already amassed a legendary track record, though, and the Laker talent was undeniable - but even the great Zen master had to be given an opportunity without any head coaching experience in Chicago. Come to think of it, who was the last Laker head coach without any prior head coaching experience?

chefy · Post #13 » by **chefy** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:18 am

you guys need to relax. its the preseason.

anarchy24 · Post #14 » by **anarchy24** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:56 am

raptor jesus wrote:Scott, D'Antoni, Brown, the organization seems reluctant to give new blood a shot, instead opting for retreads. Obviously Phil worked out as a retread hire; he had already amassed a legendary track record, though, and the Laker talent was undeniable - but even the great Zen master had to be given an opportunity without any head coaching experience in Chicago. Come to think of it, who was the last Laker head coach without any prior head coaching experience?

Kurt Rambis.

Exodus · Post #15 » by **Exodus** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:06 pm

Are we already in the regular season? Dammit I out of the loop

Sgt P · Post #16 » by **Sgt P** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:07 pm

red32 wrote:They chased away MDA, and this is what they got.

I can't tell if you are serious or not? So I started to laugh but then felt kinda stupid. :banghead:

Sofa King · Post #17 » by **Sofa King** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:16 pm

We could have had Phil Jackson before MDA. I like Byron Scott. We just need better players that can defend with range. Also less injuries would help. Getting rid of Nash is must.

improper · Post #18 » by **improper** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:45 pm

Rob Diaz wrote:Honestly, how does he have a HC job in 2014?

I have to assume that they saw his masterful tank job in Cleveland and brought him on to sink the ship for a few seasons.

Blanky53 · Post #19 » by **Blanky53** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:13 pm

Rob Diaz wrote:Honestly, how does he have a HC job in 2014?

Because, Jimmy Buss loves to keep former Lakers in-house, even if it's a bad decision.

Post #20 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:22 pm

Kings2013 wrote:Feel bad for him... no chance with this roster in this conference and it will just leave a stain on his Laker legacy and will be his last head coaching opportunity

He's getting paid millions for a job he's not terribly good at. Don't feel too bad for him. As far as his last opportunity, he's generally thought of as being able to relate to young players and unless teams are going to be prohibited from tanking, he'll find work again.