If Cleveland wins the title should they let Love go?

[TigerInYourTank]

I don't know about awesome player. He's a lower percentage shooting big man, who doesn't play D.

Sounds like you don't know much about anything.

You can resort to a personal attack because you don't like what I'm saying, but it won't change the fact Love shot 43% from the field, which for a big man is horrible, and he's incredibly soft on D.

He shoots a lot of 3's. You're expected to know this stuff on realgm.

[fresko024]

I see them signing Love or Thompson, not both.

Lol, no way man, you have no idea what you are talking about, TT stays, he is LBJ man,
Kevin Love gotta stay unless he wants out, no way the Cavs let him go after sending two 1st picks

The one xfactor is the cap going up next year. Because of that I can see some players opting into their contracts and in Thompsons case accept a 7 million QO. Do the math tho, with Kyrie, Lebron, JR, Mozgov, Varejao they'll be at 57 mill for next year. Love and Thompson at the max will bring that to over 90 million. Do you know how much of a tax hit that'll be?

[teleblaze]

I see them signing Love or Thompson, not both.

Lol, no way man, you have no idea what you are talking about, TT stays, he is LBJ man,
Kevin Love gotta stay unless he wants out, no way the Cavs let him go after sending two 1st picks

The one xfactor is the cap going up next year. Because of that I can see some players opting into their contracts and in Thompsons case accept a 7 million QO. Do the math tho, with Kyrie, Lebron, JR, Mozgov, Varejao they'll be at 57 mill for next year. Love and Thompson at the max will bring that to over 90 million. Do you know how much of a tax hit that'll be?

They don't care.

[fresko024]

Lol, no way man, you have no idea what you are talking about, TT stays, he is LBJ man,
Kevin Love gotta stay unless he wants out, no way the Cavs let him go after sending two 1st picks

The one xfactor is the cap going up next year. Because of that I can see some players opting into their contracts and in Thompsons case accept a 7 million QO. Do the math tho, with Kyrie, Lebron, JR, Mozgov, Varejao they'll be at 57 mill for next year. Love and Thompson at the max will bring that to over 90 million. Do you know how much of a tax hit that'll be?

They don't care.

That's what you think. If the Cavs win without Love I doubt they'll try that hard to keep him for the max and have to pay the tax. That'll be bad business.

[mg]

Gilbert was paying a lux tax before LeBron left in 2010. Bron knew that Gilbert, unlike Arison in Miami, would have no problem paying a lux tax which is one reason he went back to the Cavs. All the added revenue Gilbert has made off his casino since LeBron came back will more than cover the lux tax. The cap should go up significantly before there will be any repeater penalties for them although I'm guessing the CBA will be revised again during the next work stoppage which could potentially lessen the lux tax penalties anyway.

[Niko23]

Love for Mo Williams, Anthony Parker, and Jamario Moon......dat depth.

[Shot Clock]

The one xfactor is the cap going up next year. Because of that I can see some players opting into their contracts and in Thompsons case accept a 7 million QO. Do the math tho, with Kyrie, Lebron, JR, Mozgov, Varejao they'll be at 57 mill for next year. Love and Thompson at the max will bring that to over 90 million. Do you know how much of a tax hit that'll be?

They don't care.

That's what you think. If the Cavs win without Love I doubt they'll try that hard to keep him for the max and have to pay the tax. That'll be bad business.

The cap is expected to jump to around 89 mil in the 16-17 season and the tax limit next year is expected to be 82 million. Small pain for one season and you are stocked with assets.

[Nightperzon]

Irving/Delly
Shump/Smith
LeBron/
Love/Thompson
Mozgof/Varejao


Just need a backup wing and a 5th big that isn't trash since Love and Varejao are injury prone. 90-100M. thankfully the Cavs have one of the best owners in the NBA.

[fresko024]

They don't care.

That's what you think. If the Cavs win without Love I doubt they'll try that hard to keep him for the max and have to pay the tax. That'll be bad business.

The cap is expected to jump to around 89 mil in the 16-17 season and the tax limit next year is expected to be 82 million. Small pain for one season and you are stocked with assets.

Yes but why pay for the pain when you win the chip without Love? I can see them keeping him if they don't win it all but not if they win.

Not only that but the amount of the tax increases for every year you're over the cap. They're over the cap now so their tax hit will be higher next season.

[Edrees]

Oops, double post

[Edrees]

The argument against keeping Love really make no sense at all

The only people who say let love walk are Love haters who don't understand what the salary cap is

The cap is expected to jump to around 89 mil in the 16-17 season and the tax limit next year is expected to be 82 million. Small pain for one season and you are stocked with assets.

If Cavs extend tristan thompson and other role plauyers, in 16-17 they wont have enouuh cap left to sign any decent players anywhere near Love's calibur, even with an extended cap. You can also bet Lebron will be demanding the new max when he re signs his contract. That money's going to Lebron.

[DowJones]

Gilbert was paying a lux tax before LeBron left in 2010. Bron knew that Gilbert, unlike Arison in Miami, would have no problem paying a lux tax which is one reason he went back to the Cavs. All the added revenue Gilbert has made off his casino since LeBron came back will more than cover the lux tax. The cap should go up significantly before there will be any repeater penalties for them although I'm guessing the CBA will be revised again during the next work stoppage which could potentially lessen the lux tax penalties anyway.

You have to understand the difference in the luxury tax now vs 2010. It is night and day. The tax hit now is hugely punitive.

With that being said this would be just a 1 year hit because of the way the cap will go up next year. Can Gilbert stomach that hit to keep a loaded and more importantly YOUNG team in place? I think so, but it will be a massive tax bill to pay.

[mademan]

Gilbert was paying a lux tax before LeBron left in 2010. Bron knew that Gilbert, unlike Arison in Miami, would have no problem paying a lux tax which is one reason he went back to the Cavs. All the added revenue Gilbert has made off his casino since LeBron came back will more than cover the lux tax. The cap should go up significantly before there will be any repeater penalties for them although I'm guessing the CBA will be revised again during the next work stoppage which could potentially lessen the lux tax penalties anyway.

You have to understand the difference in the luxury tax now vs 2010. It is night and day. The tax hit now is hugely punitive.

With that being said this would be just a 1 year hit because of the way the cap will go up next year. Can Gilbert stomach that hit to keep a loaded and more importantly YOUNG team in place? I think so, but it will be a massive tax bill to pay.

You gotta understand the amount of money Gilbert makes by having Lebron come back to town. I'm like 90% sure that Lebron expects him to open up his pocket book and keep the squad

[teleblaze]

Gilbert was paying a lux tax before LeBron left in 2010. Bron knew that Gilbert, unlike Arison in Miami, would have no problem paying a lux tax which is one reason he went back to the Cavs. All the added revenue Gilbert has made off his casino since LeBron came back will more than cover the lux tax. The cap should go up significantly before there will be any repeater penalties for them although I'm guessing the CBA will be revised again during the next work stoppage which could potentially lessen the lux tax penalties anyway.

You have to understand the difference in the luxury tax now vs 2010. It is night and day. The tax hit now is hugely punitive.

With that being said this would be just a 1 year hit because of the way the cap will go up next year. Can Gilbert stomach that hit to keep a loaded and more importantly YOUNG team in place? I think so, but it will be a massive tax bill to pay.

Should have thought about it before they acquired Love, stupid management.

[Kobblehead]

Love does not make the Cavs worse in fact he adds a completely different dimension to the Cavs offense

Yeah, and said dimension is more of a distraction from their true bread and butter, than actual being beneficial.

[teleblaze]

Love does not make the Cavs worse in fact he adds a completely different dimension to the Cavs offense

Yeah, and said dimension is more of a distraction from their true bread and butter, than actual being beneficial.

It looks like, here KLove you can have some post time, here, go have yours(not because it's efficient but because they are afraid he might get angry and leave)
Obviously lebron handling the ball/Kyrie is better than Love trying to do his thing, thing is, maybe the next year his contribution is gonna be more than catch and shoot 3's or force feeding the post.

[Kobblehead]

It looks like, here KLove you can have some post time, here, go have yours(not because it's efficient but because they are afraid he might get angry and leave)
Obviously lebron handling the ball/Kyrie is better than Love trying to do his thing, thing is, maybe the next year his contribution is gonna be more than catch and shoot 3's or force feeding the post.

But that's the thing, his contribution is unnecessary. He's a high usage offensive forward. He'd be valuable on a team like Atlanta that needs a go-to scorer.

Cleveland doesn't need that. They can get a sufficient contribution from your typical stretch four. They don't need a luxury version of that, in Love.

[teleblaze]

It looks like, here KLove you can have some post time, here, go have yours(not because it's efficient but because they are afraid he might get angry and leave)
Obviously lebron handling the ball/Kyrie is better than Love trying to do his thing, thing is, maybe the next year his contribution is gonna be more than catch and shoot 3's or force feeding the post.

But that's the thing, his contribution is unnecessary. He's a high usage offensive forward. He'd be valuable on a team like Atlanta that needs a go-to scorer.

Cleveland doesn't need that. They can get a sufficient contribution from your typical stretch four. They don't need a luxury version of that, in Love.

that's what I was saying, he is a luxury not a need, that's too bad since they will not let him go, no way after giving up a maybe future superstar, it's not like they signed him in FA for nothing like LA signed Howard.
They can't do it since they just gave up too fkn much.

[RSCD3_]

Kevin Love isnt a luxury, Kyrie is the luxury.

[Xsy]

I feel like they kind of HAVE to try and retain Love after giving away Wiggins in order to acquire him.