MGB8 wrote:zeebneeb wrote:jbk1234 wrote:It doesn't take a lot of imagination to foresee a situation where the Knicks just implode.
Exactly. There are tiers of teams in the nba ranging from legit contenders (2-4 every year usually tier-1) all the way down to cellar dwellers. (Same number 2-4 tier-5)The Knicks are in tier 4 until proven otherwise.
That tier is probably the murkiest, and most prone to wild swings that trend downwards. The Knicks, regardless of how Knick fan feels, are absolutely in that camp. Older players, oft injured players, young players, new coach, e.t.c. it's a volatile mix.
Tier 4, unlike tier 2 (the dark horses, proven playoff teams with questions keeping them out of tier 1) or tier 3 (completely average teams that end up in the 10-6 seeds usually. No wild swings up or down expected but a surprising playoff run can happen if they get hot) are teams with
absolute caps on season success. There is no "outside chance" they win a title and they have a much higher chance of cratering into oblivion.
This why the Knicks are on this poll Knick fan. Your unproven, with a volatile mix of assets.
With that said, the Miami Heat(tier 4) should absolutely be on this list as well.
My pick goes to the Nets, tier-5 team.
I'm not a Knicks fan, at all, but I think the post is unfair to the Knicks. Yeah, they could implode and be the worst team in the NBA. But they actually have maybe the highest upside of any non-Cleveland and Golden State team, too.
If Noah returns to 90% of his DMVP form... if Rose returns to 90% of his MVP form... if Courtney Lee has an "on" year... if Melo stays healthy... if Porzingis keeps developing... if the depth (Jennings, J.Holiday, L.Thomas, O'Quinn, Hermangomez, Vujacic, maybe Plumlee) --- I mean, that team would have scoring, defense (including Rose who used to be able to defend PG as well as anyone) shooting... everything that a team would need to really put heat on the Cavs...
But the chances of all that happening are... well, not so good,.
Good post. As a Knick fan, I'd add Mindaugus "Mad Daug" Kuzminskas as a likely rotation player. He's a top Lithuanian player the team had been monitoring for a few years now and will likely have a significant role with the second unit.
IMO, the Knicks have the highest ceiling/floor disparity of any team I've seen in awhile. Not just with the major splash moves but we also don't really know what a lot of the bench guys (Mad Daug, Hernangomez, Holiday, and I'll throw Baker and NDour in there) will bring. They're just not NBA tested and other than Melo it's tough to predict the level of play of the other guys due to injuries (Rose, Noah, Jennings) and experience (Kristaps, O'Quinn, Holiday.)
Knicks have been pretty bad for awhile so I understand that there's no benefit of the doubt given, but I haven't been as happy with management's approach to building the team in my adult life.