LAPD: There is a "current and open criminal investigation" of Rose

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Re: LAPD: There is a "current and open criminal investigation" of Rose 

Post#21 » by Dominator83 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:42 pm

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Post#24 » by Jedi32 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:17 pm

I'm all for supporting victims but waiting two years to file a complaint seems like a shakedown to me. Yeah and still he should have known better. There's no way I would do anything as a millionaire now in days without a camera rolling.
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Re: LAPD: There is a "current and open criminal investigation" of Rose 

Post#27 » by IggyStardust » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:49 pm

LouisLitt wrote:Can't wait to see how people defend him now.

"It's a criminal investigation in only LA, he has to be criminally investigated in over 50% of the states before it's a real situation"


seriously.
her delay to press her claim (and thus she's fibbing) reasoning still getting traction though. :nonono:
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Post#28 » by 2LeTTeRS » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:47 pm

Im not surprised, his comments at the last legal proceeding basically gifted them a case. I'm not sure if he did this but I can say it doesn't seem like he took this matter too seriously (i.e. seems like he did no prep before being questioned) and now it's costing him.
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Post#29 » by phanman » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:53 pm

I mean what happened to innocent until proven guilty... the entire situation is shady as hell anyways waiting 2 years to file anything?

That said as a millionaire why would you want to train/share a girl with your homies anyways.
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Re: LAPD: There is a "current and open criminal investigation" of Rose 

Post#30 » by Mister Ze » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:59 pm

There's no way the LAPD formally charge him with the crime. I think they want to make headlines by saying 'Hey he's under investigation'
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Re: LAPD: There is a "current and open criminal investigation" of Rose 

Post#31 » by taikibansei » Mon Sep 26, 2016 10:59 pm

There's a "current and open criminal investigation" of Rose because two weeks ago, the plaintiff finally filed a criminal complaint:

http://www.complex.com/sports/2016/09/derrick-rose-accuser-criminal-charges-civil-case

The LAPD has to investigate each and every complaint. Accordingly, their statement here:

This note is to clarify any misconception that the Los Angeles Police Department does not have a current and open criminal investigation pending that names the same suspects as the defendants in the current civil case being handled by your office (Case No. CV 15-7503-MWF (JCx). When filing the crime report, the victim in this case exercised her right to confidentiality as outlined in California Penal Code section 293.5. (a). Her identity will continue to remain confidential throughout the criminal investigation being handled by the Los Angeles Police Department.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/lapd-confirms-theres-an-open-criminal-investigation-in-the-derrick-rose-rape-case-170306724.html

Suggests only that they are doing what they are supposed to be doing, not that criminal charges are imminent.

Of course, with Rose on the witness stand (and Laurel and Hardy apparently as his defense team), I can certainly imagine multiple scenarios where he accidentally makes a full confession under oath during the civil trial--which is one of several reasons why the civil case needs to be settled quickly.
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Re: LAPD: There is a "current and open criminal investigation" of Rose 

Post#32 » by EAS Law » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:20 pm

If he's convicted, he won't be playing anywhere. It's criminal--he goes to jail.

The commissioner has a certain level of power, but it isn't unrestrained. The commissioner cannot run afoul of the CBA and player's association.

There is very likely a form contract that the NBA and its teams accept and use with a provision terminating the deal with a criminal conviction-especially one that essentially eliminates the possibility for the player to perform.

I've personally seen the NFL form contract and this is used widely. There are contract addendums that players and agents negotiate, but generally, it's the same for most players.
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Post#33 » by lamscott » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:41 pm

Speculating on why she is reporting this 2 years late is useless. The core issue of someone being investigated for sexual assault is serious.
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Post#34 » by Kupchak9 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:52 pm

Rose was never the type to shy away from speaking his mind (whats left of it anyway). I'd expect him to outright say he's guilty in the next interview... and then say that's not what he really meant.
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Post#35 » by Yallbecrazy » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:15 am

Sure seems like he's all but admitted to gang rape from the excerpts I've read during his testimony, but maybe the defense could claim entrapment and that he's too stupid for what he said during the interviews to be used as evidence.
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Post#36 » by Bertrob » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:34 am

Lot of baggage that the Knicks took on
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Post#37 » by JellosJigglin » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:08 am

Jedi32 wrote:I'm all for supporting victims but waiting two years to file a complaint seems like a shakedown to me. Yeah and still he should have known better. There's no way I would do anything as a millionaire now in days without a camera rolling.


I'm not saying Rose did it, but waiting 2 years doesn't mean a thing. Just look at Bill Cosby, Corey Haim and Corey Feldman. Sometimes victims would rather suffer in silence than to have a spotlight shined on a most traumatic life experience. Sometimes all it takes is one victim to speak up for others to gain the courage.
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Re: LAPD: There is a "current and open criminal investigation" of Rose 

Post#38 » by leolozon » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:19 am

It's 2016 and people still think waiting two years to file a complaint is a red flag? How ignorant can people get?

Rape is a tough crime to prove, unfortunately. It's also a crime that leave many scares and it's a crime often done by people in authority or with power. It can also be a subtle crime in some cases. The victim can feel guilty. It's no wonder many victim never talk about it or wait many years to do it.

It's so weird how uneducated on the matter some people are.
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Re: LAPD: There is a "current and open criminal investigation" of Rose 

Post#40 » by gavran » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:47 am

RCM88x wrote:Knicks would probably be better off without him, just a shame they spent all that money on him and Noah for what probably will be no actual improvement.

They've spent 0 money on Rose, he was traded for. Also, and expiring contract.

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