Rockets match Nets offer for Donuts (Updte Pg 17: Offer Pulled, DMo UFA)

Laure · Post #1 » by **Laure** » Mon Dec 5, 2016 10:54 pm

4/37.

HotTubMike · Post #2 » by **HotTubMike** » Mon Dec 5, 2016 10:58 pm

Glad Morey matched.... good player on a very team friendly deal.

Even though D-Mo's injury history is a concern ..... when you look at how the deal is structured it is worth the risk for what D-Mo showed a couple of seasons ago.

Ballerhogger · Post #3 » by **Ballerhogger** » Mon Dec 5, 2016 11:00 pm

I thought you meant donuts hahaha hahaha

YogurtProducer · Post #4 » by **YogurtProducer** » Mon Dec 5, 2016 11:01 pm

Wouldn't be surprised if he is traded soon. Seems like a toxic situation at this point.

Post #5 » by **FNQ** » Mon Dec 5, 2016 11:02 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if he is traded soon. Seems like a toxic situation at this point.

thats what i was thinking... Donatas can't be happy, he seemed aggravated at how the Rockets negotiated with him. Who knows though, maybe he only cared about getting paid and now that he's been paid, all is well

K_chile22 · Post #6 » by **K_chile22** » Mon Dec 5, 2016 11:03 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if he is traded soon. Seems like a toxic situation at this point.

What does?

Post #7 » by **jwise44** » Mon Dec 5, 2016 11:04 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if he is traded soon. Seems like a toxic situation at this point.

If I understand correctly, he can't be traded till next season now

BallerTalk · Post #8 » by **BallerTalk** » Mon Dec 5, 2016 11:09 pm

otwok · Post #9 » by **otwok** » Mon Dec 5, 2016 11:14 pm

Those are some expensive donuts.

Post #10 » by **Mr. E** » Mon Dec 5, 2016 11:15 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if he is traded soon. Seems like a toxic situation at this point.

He can't be traded this season. And I believe he has to approve any deal next season.

As for the situation, I have seen nothing but professionalism from Motiejunas. I doubt that he causes any waves in Houston. It will be fine here.

I won't be surprised if he has a new agent soon, though.

lars_rosenberg · Post #11 » by **lars_rosenberg** » Mon Dec 5, 2016 11:17 pm

Most of it is unguaranteed money. The Nets were too cautious with their offer and Houston had no big risk in matching.

pr0wler · Post #12 » by **pr0wler** » Mon Dec 5, 2016 11:26 pm

D-Mo for 3-Mo!!!

The_Hater · Post #13 » by **The_Hater** » Mon Dec 5, 2016 11:33 pm

jwise44 wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if he is traded soon. Seems like a toxic situation at this point.

If I understand correctly, he can't be traded till next season now

This is my impression of the rule as well.

Liqourish · Post #14 » by **Liqourish** » Mon Dec 5, 2016 11:40 pm

It's only $5 million guaranteed and reportedly voidable after two seasons. No one wanted to take a big gamble on the injury he claims doesn't exist.

Post #15 » by **Slava** » Mon Dec 5, 2016 11:51 pm

Sean Marks helped Morey get a better deal than Morey could negotiate himself. Brooklyn's front office is amateur and D-Mo is a dummy for signing that offer sheet after holding out for so long instead of playing on the QO.

Shock Defeat · Post #16 » by **Shock Defeat** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 12:01 am

Slava wrote:Sean Marks helped Morey get a better deal than Morey could negotiate himself. Brooklyn's front office is amateur and D-Mo is a dummy for signing that offer sheet after holding out for so long instead of playing on the QO.

D-Mo misplayed it and was banking on the Rockets sucking without him and being desperate to sign him. Once he saw that we were fine without him he had to give in. No team wanted him or else they could have had him. The threat of Morey matching also discouraged suitors during free agency. Morey played this perfectly.

Ballerhogger · Post #17 » by **Ballerhogger** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 12:06 am

BBall Loyalty wrote:
Slava wrote:Sean Marks helped Morey get a better deal than Morey could negotiate himself. Brooklyn's front office is amateur and D-Mo is a dummy for signing that offer sheet after holding out for so long instead of playing on the QO.

D-Mo misplayed it and was banking on the Rockets sucking without him and being desperate to sign him. Once he saw that we were fine without him he had to give in. No team wanted him or else they could have had him. The threat of Morey matching also discouraged suitors during free agency. Morey played this perfectly.

Agreed. Now he has to fit Mike offense or he won't see a lot playing time.

K_chile22 · Post #18 » by **K_chile22** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 12:08 am

Slava wrote:Sean Marks helped Morey get a better deal than Morey could negotiate himself. Brooklyn's front office is amateur and D-Mo is a dummy for signing that offer sheet after holding out for so long instead of playing on the QO.

I don't understand the Morey criticism part. Dmo couldn't get Morey to go that high without another team giving Dmo leverage, it wasn't a case of Morey trying to get Dmo to agree to something that low

Post #19 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 12:12 am

K_chile22 wrote:Dmo couldn't get Morey to go that high without another team giving Dmo leverage, it wasn't a case of Morey trying to get Dmo to agree to something that low

I feel like I am missing something here. Filling in the numbers, doesn't that basically read: Dmo couldn't get Morey to go up to a starting 8.5m salary, it wasn't a case of Morey trying to get Dmo to agree to a 7m starting salary.

CptCrunch · Post #20 » by **CptCrunch** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 12:16 am

BBall Loyalty wrote:
Slava wrote:Sean Marks helped Morey get a better deal than Morey could negotiate himself. Brooklyn's front office is amateur and D-Mo is a dummy for signing that offer sheet after holding out for so long instead of playing on the QO.

D-Mo misplayed it and was banking on the Rockets sucking without him and being desperate to sign him. Once he saw that we were fine without him he had to give in. No team wanted him or else they could have had him. The threat of Morey matching also discouraged suitors during free agency. Morey played this perfectly.

Pretty simple tbh.

What he should have done:
Sign QO for $4.4 million.
If healthy, become UFA next year, get big $$$ contract.
If not healthy, gets $4.4m total

What happened:
Let QO expire. Signed Nets deal 35m/4 year or 8.75m/year or so, read on. This deal is really bad.
If healthy, locked into a bargain basement deal for less than 9m per year for 4 years.
If not healthy, Rockets can actually cut him by January 10, 2017. He only gets 5m for 2016-2017. Rockets can even decide to keep him in January, then elect to not pickup his second year by March 1, 2017. So Rockets can keep him on the roster until March for $8.5m this year.

And his last two years are fully unguaranteed (with decision dates of July 7, 2017 and July 7, 2018).

What did his gamble get him? Probably approximately 4m in guaranteed money, but lost an opportunity to get the real big bucks in FA. Motiejunas needs to fire his agent.

This deal is a disaster: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-houston-matches-nets-offer-sheet-for-donatas-motiejunas-221704984.html