Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent?

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Re: Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent? 

Post#341 » by cksdayoff » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:33 pm

i'm glad jokic plays out in the west
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Re: Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent? 

Post#342 » by XPeak » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:40 pm

Jokic will steer the stereotype for Eastern European gangster bigs.

I think he is legitimate.
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Re: Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent? 

Post#343 » by laika » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:05 pm

blazeyo wrote:According to advanced stats he already has HOF potential.


Jokic is likely the most underrated player in the league. Through 1.5 years Jokic has been a lot better than Towns yet barely gets talked about.
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Re: Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent? 

Post#344 » by Johnny Firpo » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:31 pm

The cherry on top is that the guy is doing this for 1.3 million a year. :lol: Can you say best contract in the league? What a freakin' find from the Nuggets FO, kudos. Now trade Gallo to a contender, where I can root for him in the playoffs, please. :)
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Re: Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent? 

Post#345 » by mcmurphy » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:55 pm

Johnny Firpo wrote:The cherry on top is that the guy is doing this for 1.3 million a year. :lol: Can you say best contract in the league? What a freakin' find from the Nuggets FO, kudos.


for another 2 years :D

I don't know if it can do a renegotiation of the contract, type 4 years 40mln from 2017-18... in practice it would mean paying 37mln for the third and fourth year ... so would financially secure him for the next two years (20mln instead of 3.5mln) but would give flexibility 'in Denver in since 2019-20

Johnny Firpo wrote:Now trade Gallo to a contender, where I can root for him in the playoffs, please. :)


I would see well in Houston if it goes away from Denver.
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Post#346 » by bulliedog8 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:00 pm

Johnny Firpo wrote:The cherry on top is that the guy is doing this for 1.3 million a year. :lol: Can you say best contract in the league? What a freakin' find from the Nuggets FO, kudos. Now trade Gallo to a contender, where I can root for him in the playoffs, please. :)


Nuggets are currently the 8th seed.
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Post#347 » by Klayforspicy » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:18 pm

laika wrote:
blazeyo wrote:According to advanced stats he already has HOF potential.


Jokic is likely the most underrated player in the league. Through 1.5 years Jokic has been a lot better than Towns yet barely gets talked about.

How has he been a lot better ? assists ?

I think we put too much stock in advanced stats/Per 36. Why aren't these young kids playing 36 minutes to begin with.
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Re: Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent? 

Post#348 » by Duffman100 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:20 pm

Wish the Raptors had Jokic.
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Post#349 » by The_Hater » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:06 pm

Duffman100 wrote:Wish the Raptors had Jokic.


We picked both Bruno and DeAndre Daniels ahead of him. Don't be greedy.
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Re: Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent? 

Post#350 » by mcmurphy » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:23 pm

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laika wrote:
blazeyo wrote:According to advanced stats he already has HOF potential.


Jokic is likely the most underrated player in the league. Through 1.5 years Jokic has been a lot better than Towns yet barely gets talked about.

How has he been a lot better ? assists ?

I think we put too much stock in advanced stats/Per 36. Why aren't these young kids playing 36 minutes to begin with.


Quiet please. ;-)
Now Malone has understood to gave him free reign.

Since joining the starting lineup (last 12 games) he has already played 6 games with more than 30 minutes.

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Re: Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent? 

Post#351 » by Duffman100 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:09 pm

The_Hater wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:Wish the Raptors had Jokic.


We got both Bruno and DeAndre Daniels. Don't be greedy.


I often forget Daniels even exists.
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Re: Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent? 

Post#352 » by Yuri Vaultin » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:23 pm

The_Hater wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:Wish the Raptors had Jokic.


We got both Bruno and DeAndre Daniels. Don't be greedy.


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Re: Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent? 

Post#353 » by lars_rosenberg » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:51 pm

Jokic is already a top 3 offensive center. Only Anthony Davis and Cousins are equal or better.
As long as Towns' defensive impact stays so low he's inferior to Jokic. He still has more defensive potential, but if he can't figure it out with Thibodeau, I don't know when he'll do.
Denver is already competitive and has just as much upside as Minnesota, with Mudiay e and Murray as potential all-stars (even if I wouldn't bet on them tbh, still going to be good players though) and quality two way players in Gary Harris and Jusuf Nurkic, who's probably going to be traded but will net some value.
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Re: Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent? 

Post#354 » by mesomorph » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:23 pm

Duffman100 wrote:Wish the Raptors had Jokic.

casey would destroy his development + his job would be just to rebound the ball and set some screens for derozan. Derozan would not give him the ball as much times as he have it in denver. He would become JV 2.0
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Re: Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent? 

Post#355 » by lilswift01 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:03 pm

Would you guys take him over Porzingis. I think i might take Unicorn due to his athleticism.
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Re: Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent? 

Post#356 » by og15 » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:07 am

Brandon_Roy wrote:
laika wrote:
blazeyo wrote:According to advanced stats he already has HOF potential.


Jokic is likely the most underrated player in the league. Through 1.5 years Jokic has been a lot better than Towns yet barely gets talked about.

How has he been a lot better ? assists ?

I think we put too much stock in advanced stats/Per 36. Why aren't these young kids playing 36 minutes to begin with.
Looks like he is now. Sometimes it also takes coaches a while to realize what they have in a player. He's started the last 14 games:

27.6 mpg | 19.4 ppg | 9.4 rpg | 5.2 apg | 2.2 tpg | 63.8% FG | 45.8% 3PT

Then his per minute production for 36 games in a solid 25 mpg (which is enough minutes to suggest it's sustainable) are solid, so there's a good point being made. His passing is quite impressive, especially since he isn't turnover prone or anything.
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Re: Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent? 

Post#357 » by youngthegiant » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:20 am

lilswift01 wrote:Would you guys take him over Porzingis. I think i might take Unicorn due to his athleticism.

Unicorns aren't real, Nikola Jokic is real.
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Post#358 » by Steelo Green » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:23 am

Duffman100 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:Wish the Raptors had Jokic.


We got both Bruno and DeAndre Daniels. Don't be greedy.


I often forget Daniels even exists.

So does Daniels.
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Re: Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent? 

Post#359 » by Phureal » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:56 am

One of my favorites to watch highlights on. Beautiful passes and great shooting touch. He's the real deal
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Re: Is Nikola Jokic a franchise level talent? 

Post#360 » by LoveMyRaps » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:08 am

sixerhp3 wrote:
eathb_au wrote:I'm am annoyed that Malone almost ruined his development this year and if anything killed his chances for an All Star spot.

Jokic in December: 16.2/9.2/4.4 on .692 from the field and .455 from 3.

Want to know what makes it more impressive?

He's doing this IN 25 MINUTES A NIGHT.


He's good, but he's no Embiid


Jokic >>>>> Embiid ....AINEC
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