Big Baby Davis goes off on ‘overrated’ Doc Rivers

phanman · Post #21 » by **phanman** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:44 pm

He has a point, the Celtics won the chip on the laurels of their defensive chops. As you know, Thibs was the mastermind behind that.

Pinkyring · Post #22 » by **Pinkyring** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:51 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:All coaches are overrated if people think they are the difference makers, where they aren't making personnel decisions.

If you don't think coaching matters you're crazy, avery got outcoached by pat riley, heat win, spo got out coached by carlisle mavs win, coaches definitely matters, mavs had no business winning in 11, every team we played had more talent than us including the first round blazers. Same reason we are in the hunt for the playoffs this year and we suck(please tank)

2011Champs · Post #23 » by **2011Champs** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:51 pm

I'm not sure anyone really rates Doc that high so I'm not sure that he is "overrated ". I wouldn't want him as my team's coach, I know that much.

sanitylaker · Post #24 » by **sanitylaker** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:51 pm

cpower wrote:
sanitylaker wrote:Well he beat Popovich and the Spurs in the playoffs when they were the defending champions. I think he is fine as coach.

Davis is already out of the league

If you are just talking about 2015, CP3, Blake and Jordan are better than Old duncan, young Kawhi. Spurs might have a better system but Kawhi struggled that year. The clippers were better team and had the better seed so I dont think it means anything.

38 y/o Duncan destroyed Jordan in that series. 18ppg/11rpg @ 60%TS and they were the defending champions with Kawhi as the Finals MVP, so that's not an excuse.

Plus, LAC had 56 wins and SA had 55 wins. They only played in the 1st round of the playoffs because of that old dumb division champion rule that gave Portland the 4th seed with 51 wins.

geminiz · Post #25 » by **geminiz** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:55 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:Of course he's overrated. His inability to make even the simplest adjustments gets exposed every year in the playoffs. He refuses to develop young players. The quality of his "coaching" is entirely dependent on how loaded his roster is with talent. Meanwhile, you see guys like Rick Carlisle squeezing every ounce of production out of garbage rosters while getting paid less than Doc. On top of that, the media protects Doc and goes along with the excuses he makes for his failure.

Com'on now, that's just flat out lie. Who else would give that much playtime and dedication to Austin River?!

Umm now the question is, Doc vs Casey...Who sucks more

snoopdogg88 · Post #26 » by **snoopdogg88** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:02 pm

Doc gave him a job with Boston and LA

Punk should shut up

Zombiesonics · Post #27 » by **Zombiesonics** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:16 pm

Nothing but facts from Davis here

FinallyImHere · Post #28 » by **FinallyImHere** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:18 pm

He wasn't lying. Many coaches would of done a great job with that team.

The_Hater · Post #29 » by **The_Hater** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:21 pm

sanitylaker wrote:Well he beat Popovich and the Spurs in the playoffs when they were the defending champions. I think he is fine as coach.

Davis is already out of the league

So your opinion as an outsider is better informed than that of a player who played for him in 2 different organizations?

MartinToVaught · Post #30 » by **MartinToVaught** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:27 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:All coaches are overrated if people think they are the difference makers, where they aren't making personnel decisions.

Doc does make the personnel decisions in LA, and it's been an unmitigated disaster.

gb42106 · Post #31 » by **gb42106** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:29 pm

Doc doesn't coach, his assistants are the ones that do the actual coaching.

cpower · Post #32 » by **cpower** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:38 pm

FirePjax wrote:
cpower wrote:
sanitylaker wrote:Well he beat Popovich and the Spurs in the playoffs when they were the defending champions. I think he is fine as coach.

Davis is already out of the league

If you are just talking about 2015, CP3, Blake and Jordan are better than Old duncan, young Kawhi. Spurs might have a better system but Kawhi struggled that year. The clippers were better team and had the better seed so I dont think it means anything.

That's funny. Beating the defending champs ment nothing

What matters is the defending champs gets better or worse. Was 15 Spurs better than before?

GreatWhiteStiff · Post #33 » by **GreatWhiteStiff** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:42 pm

bmurph128 wrote:Worst nickname in all of sports history. Just atrocious.

This reminds me of a trump tweet...

Big Baby Davis. Worst nickname in all of sports history. Just atrocious. Going after a championship head coach. Sad!

nickhx2 · Post #34 » by **nickhx2** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:43 pm

doc rivers is a really good coach. but he is also overrated, so yes both can be true (i.e. not mutually exclusive like it was mentioned in a previous post).

that said, this is a lot of sour grapes stuff coming out of davis's side. likely had everything to do with the team not wanting to retain him.

bmurph128 · Post #35 » by **bmurph128** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:45 pm

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
bmurph128 wrote:Worst nickname in all of sports history. Just atrocious.

This reminds me of a trump tweet...

Big Baby Davis. Worst nickname in all of sports history. Just atrocious. Going after a championship head coach. Sad!

Wow that cut deep man

TheNewEra · Post #36 » by **TheNewEra** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:58 pm

clippertown wrote:When Big Baby begged Doc for a job this last year, I doubt he was calling him overrated. Now he is out of the league, I smell major sour grapes.

Being misdiagnosed by the medical stuff surely made things worse. We are all very well aware of how the medical stuff can screw up injuries.

Post #37 » by **jbk1234** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:09 pm

He's a good coach. It's just that Mike Brown made him look like Pop every time the Cavs played the Celtics the first go around.

hodgy#11 · Post #38 » by **hodgy#11** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:28 pm

Comes off as salty, but he's not wrong..

Louie_Ruckuz · Post #39 » by **Louie_Ruckuz** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:30 pm

Doc traded away Dudley who guarded and can shoot the 3 for his son lol He should've been fired then.

Most overrated coach in the NBA lol Any coach would've been able to win in 2008 with Garnett, Allen and Pierce.

Optms · Post #40 » by **Optms** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:32 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:Of course he's overrated. His inability to make even the simplest adjustments gets exposed every year in the playoffs. He refuses to develop young players.

Unless that young player is Austin Rivers*