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Simmons25 wrote:

Choker wrote:

Wolfy1983 wrote:
Obama didn't bomb parts of the Middle East and he didn't have an immigration ban ? Are we gonna play that game?

When did he have an immigration ban?

2011. The State Department under Obama's administration put a 6 month ban on immigration from Iraq.... just like Trump did and for the same reasons Trump did.

It was in response to finding 2 refugees Obama had let into the country from Iraq whilst he was asleep at the wheel.... were actually terrorists that killed Americans in Iraq. Just like ISIS said they would do.... they'd use terrorists masked as refugees to infiltrate the US.

The left want to deny it's the same as Trump having an immigrant ban... even though the reasons were exactly the same. National security. The numbers don't lie no matter how much Obama does.

2010 - 18,251 refugees from Iraq
2011 - 6,339 refugees from Iraq <---- The 6 month Obama ban... that apparantly never happened.
2012 - 16,369 refugees from Iraq

Also the 7 countries that Trump banned.... were the 7 countries the State Department created under Obama's administration... as "Countries of concern" for sponsoring terrorism. Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen. The left media spin of course was that Trump made the list himself... and that he didn't include Saudi Arabia because he has business interests there... when it was actually Obama who made the list not Trump.

Senbonzakura wrote:

shangrila wrote:Some wouldn't. The Warriors for sure, and if the Spurs go it will be without Pop. Same with Cleveland and Lebron. At least judging by their public opinions. Also, now that I think about it Lebron probably strong arms the rest of the team into not going so I'd say they're a lock to skip it.

Personally, it'd seem disrespectful to the position and a little childish frankly but it's their call.

Was this your view when Brady didn't go to Obama's white house?

Slava wrote:If y'all start debating political policy here, I'm going to have to ask you to do it in the current affairs forum and lock this one.

Senbonzakura wrote:

shangrila wrote:Some wouldn't. The Warriors for sure, and if the Spurs go it will be without Pop. Same with Cleveland and Lebron. At least judging by their public opinions. Also, now that I think about it Lebron probably strong arms the rest of the team into not going so I'd say they're a lock to skip it.

Personally, it'd seem disrespectful to the position and a little childish frankly but it's their call.

Was this your view when Brady didn't go to Obama's white house?

zimpy27 wrote:Why would they skip the white house?

Is this common in US, to disrespect the presidency? It's still an honour to go, regardless if the person you voted for doesn't get in. Seems like not shaking hands with opponents after taking a loss.

Choker wrote:

Simmons25 wrote:

Choker wrote:
When did he have an immigration ban?

2011. The State Department under Obama's administration put a 6 month ban on immigration from Iraq.... just like Trump did and for the same reasons Trump did.

It was in response to finding 2 refugees Obama had let into the country from Iraq whilst he was asleep at the wheel.... were actually terrorists that killed Americans in Iraq. Just like ISIS said they would do.... they'd use terrorists masked as refugees to infiltrate the US.

The left want to deny it's the same as Trump having an immigrant ban... even though the reasons were exactly the same. National security. The numbers don't lie no matter how much Obama does.

2010 - 18,251 refugees from Iraq
2011 - 6,339 refugees from Iraq <---- The 6 month Obama ban... that apparantly never happened.
2012 - 16,369 refugees from Iraq

Also the 7 countries that Trump banned.... were the 7 countries the State Department created under Obama's administration... as "Countries of concern" for sponsoring terrorism. Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen. The left media spin of course was that Trump made the list himself... and that he didn't include Saudi Arabia because he has business interests there... when it was actually Obama who made the list not Trump.

Wait, you're saying that putting a ban on a country where they actually found terrorists coming into the country, is the exact same thing as putting a ban on seven countries where they didn't have terrorists? Amazing logic, it's no wonder how Trump got elected. They also didn't completely ban refugees from Iraq, people were still allowed in. It wasn't even a ban, they just made it harder for people in that country to get in, it's only been called a ban recently to try and make Trump look not terrible (he still is).

Simmons25 wrote:

Choker wrote:

Simmons25 wrote:
2011. The State Department under Obama's administration put a 6 month ban on immigration from Iraq.... just like Trump did and for the same reasons Trump did.

It was in response to finding 2 refugees Obama had let into the country from Iraq whilst he was asleep at the wheel.... were actually terrorists that killed Americans in Iraq. Just like ISIS said they would do.... they'd use terrorists masked as refugees to infiltrate the US.

The left want to deny it's the same as Trump having an immigrant ban... even though the reasons were exactly the same. National security. The numbers don't lie no matter how much Obama does.

2010 - 18,251 refugees from Iraq
2011 - 6,339 refugees from Iraq <---- The 6 month Obama ban... that apparantly never happened.
2012 - 16,369 refugees from Iraq

Also the 7 countries that Trump banned.... were the 7 countries the State Department created under Obama's administration... as "Countries of concern" for sponsoring terrorism. Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen. The left media spin of course was that Trump made the list himself... and that he didn't include Saudi Arabia because he has business interests there... when it was actually Obama who made the list not Trump.

Wait, you're saying that putting a ban on a country where they actually found terrorists coming into the country, is the exact same thing as putting a ban on seven countries where they didn't have terrorists? Amazing logic, it's no wonder how Trump got elected. They also didn't completely ban refugees from Iraq, people were still allowed in. It wasn't even a ban, they just made it harder for people in that country to get in, it's only been called a ban recently to try and make Trump look not terrible (he still is).

Trump banned 7 countries that were listed by Obama as being 7 countries of concern as they were found to be "sponsors of terrorism". Just because Obama sat on his hands and did nothing with this list... whilst letting 2 terrorists waltz into the country disguised as refugees... is irrelevant.

Obama was reactive. Trump is proactive.

Trump saw a gigantic hole and tried to temporarily patch it up for 6 months whilst they put in place checks to make sure only legitimate refugees were making their way into the country and not terrorists.

If you think that makes him a terrible horrible racist person for putting the security of Americans first... then that speaks volumes about you not him.

It's sad when people put common sense and safety aside... in exchange for political correctness and safe spaces.

It's that sort of bleeding heart leftism along with calling anyone who supports Trumps actions as a bigot and racist... that is the reason Germany, Sweden and France (All run by bleeding heart lefties) are being destroyed.... and is the reason Donald Trump was voted into office.

Bertrob wrote:So if you're a Spurs fan and think Trump is the worst don't you feel like you shouldn't support a team run by a Trump supporter and one of his biggest donators from Texas?

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