If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals

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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

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Post#62 » by CablexDeadpool » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:58 pm

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3Diamantidis wrote:Maybe brogdon himself(who knows?)... But he is also a better shooter than kemba.

wot

Kemba is Steph Curry level at C&S threes. Educate yourself.


You are being a homer.
Brogdon is shooting 40.4% on his rookie season.
Kemba's pct is 39%. That's not a huge difference..
But malcolm is a rookie. Rookies usually improve not decline. Especially if they have the work ethic of brogdon.
I love kemba. I just don't think he's a good fit for all teams :wink:


50 percent of Kemba's 3s are assisted
90 percent of Malcolm Brogdon's 3's are assisted.

Kemba is a way better shooter than Brogdon
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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

Post#63 » by Jadoogar » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:19 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:A team that could really use Walker is the Milwaukee Bucks. A dynamic shooting/scoring PG is what they're missing, they would be blowing Toronto out of the water if they had Kemba.


They probably wouldn't be the 6th seed if they had Kemba
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Re: If The Raptors Had Kemba Walker They Would Be A Lock For The Finals 

Post#64 » by ropjhk » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:29 pm

Don't agree with the OP, but I would take Kyrie Irving over Lowry in the playoffs.
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Post#65 » by devilsace » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:11 pm

HornetsFan29 wrote:Kemba byhimself took a UConn team who was not even good and led them to a national Title.That is how much of a leader and clutch Kemba is .


So what happened last year during the playoffs? Melo took syracuse to a national title, which means squat in the NBA...plz try again
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Post#66 » by Rapcity_11 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:42 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:A team that could really use Walker is the Milwaukee Bucks. A dynamic shooting/scoring PG is what they're missing, they would be blowing Toronto out of the water if they had Kemba.


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Post#67 » by GlenRiceARoni » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:17 am

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The_Hater wrote:I'm just waiting for somebody to post Walker's entire 2016 playoff stats. Including that 3/16, 9 point clunker in game 7

Yeah he sucked every other game against Miami. Couldn't make a single layup. And that's coming from someone that loves Kemba.

He played the entire series on a torn meniscus and Whiteside was locked in around the rim.

Zeller, Batum, and Marv were all injured which left him, Lin, Jefferson, hawes, and lee... Not the most potent offense

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Post#68 » by GlenRiceARoni » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:20 am

The_Hater wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:A team that could really use Walker is the Milwaukee Bucks. A dynamic shooting/scoring PG is what they're missing, they would be blowing Toronto out of the water if they had Kemba.


Walker wouldn't help the Bucks as much as you think. He would take the ball out of Giannis and Middleton's hands while providing far worse defense than Brogdan and Delle. I think Bucks are better with the ball in the hands of those 2 players on offense and having all those long armed defenders who can switch everything in defense.

Kemba isnt a good defender but he's certainly not far worse than either of those guys.

Curry had one off game in the finals and delly has been riding the myth that he's a good defender ever since. He's terrible defensively

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Post#69 » by GlenRiceARoni » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:21 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
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Illmatic12 wrote:A team that could really use Walker is the Milwaukee Bucks. A dynamic shooting/scoring PG is what they're missing, they would be blowing Toronto out of the water if they had Kemba.


Walker wouldn't help the Bucks as much as you think. He would take the ball out of Giannis and Middleton's hands while providing far worse defense than Brogdan and Delle. I think Bucks are better with the ball in the hands of those 2 players on offense and having all those long armed defenders who can switch everything in defense.


Yup. Giannis needs the ball in his hands as much as possible. Right now theyre missing Jabari big time. Jabari was able to be a 20 point scorer while mostly playing off the ball with his ability to cut and catch and shoot and those times when Giannis did sit, Jabari could create his own shot as well.

They aren't missing jabari they finally started winning a few games after he got injured.

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Post#70 » by GlenRiceARoni » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:25 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
HornetsFan29 wrote:Kemba byhimself took a UConn team who was not even good and led them to a national Title.That is how much of a leader and clutch Kemba is .


Well damn Melo carried an even worse team to the national title for Syracuse. I bet that dude must be the ultimate winner and lead his teams to deep playoff runs.....

Absolutely not true. Hakim Warrick and that white lights out point guard. That team was far from trash

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Post#71 » by Duke4life831 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:14 am

GlenRiceARoni wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
HornetsFan29 wrote:Kemba byhimself took a UConn team who was not even good and led them to a national Title.That is how much of a leader and clutch Kemba is .


Well damn Melo carried an even worse team to the national title for Syracuse. I bet that dude must be the ultimate winner and lead his teams to deep playoff runs.....

Absolutely not true. Hakim Warrick and that white lights out point guard. That team was far from trash

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Ya and Kemba had Shabazz Napier and Jeremy Lamb who are 2 NBA players on that team with him and they also had Alex Oriakhi who was a damn good college big. I agree Warrick was good and the guy youre thinking of is Gerry McNammara was a solid shooter. Im just saying Melo had less talent around him than Kemba did.
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Post#72 » by Dez » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:38 am

GlenRiceARoni wrote:
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Illmatic12 wrote:A team that could really use Walker is the Milwaukee Bucks. A dynamic shooting/scoring PG is what they're missing, they would be blowing Toronto out of the water if they had Kemba.


Walker wouldn't help the Bucks as much as you think. He would take the ball out of Giannis and Middleton's hands while providing far worse defense than Brogdan and Delle. I think Bucks are better with the ball in the hands of those 2 players on offense and having all those long armed defenders who can switch everything in defense.

Kemba isnt a good defender but he's certainly not far worse than either of those guys.

Curry had one off game in the finals and delly has been riding the myth that he's a good defender ever since. He's terrible defensively

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Post#73 » by The_Hater » Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:48 am

GlenRiceARoni wrote:
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Illmatic12 wrote:A team that could really use Walker is the Milwaukee Bucks. A dynamic shooting/scoring PG is what they're missing, they would be blowing Toronto out of the water if they had Kemba.


Walker wouldn't help the Bucks as much as you think. He would take the ball out of Giannis and Middleton's hands while providing far worse defense than Brogdan and Delle. I think Bucks are better with the ball in the hands of those 2 players on offense and having all those long armed defenders who can switch everything in defense.

Kemba isnt a good defender but he's certainly not far worse than either of those guys.

Curry had one off game in the finals and delly has been riding the myth that he's a good defender ever since. He's terrible defensively

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Post#74 » by The_Hater » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:22 am

GlenRiceARoni wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
Walker wouldn't help the Bucks as much as you think. He would take the ball out of Giannis and Middleton's hands while providing far worse defense than Brogdan and Delle. I think Bucks are better with the ball in the hands of those 2 players on offense and having all those long armed defenders who can switch everything in defense.


Yup. Giannis needs the ball in his hands as much as possible. Right now theyre missing Jabari big time. Jabari was able to be a 20 point scorer while mostly playing off the ball with his ability to cut and catch and shoot and those times when Giannis did sit, Jabari could create his own shot as well.

They aren't missing jabari they finally started winning a few games after he got injured.

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Which coincided with Middleton's return. It's possible and even probable that they'd be even better with Middleton and Jabari both playing.
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Post#75 » by Ambrose » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:40 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
GlenRiceARoni wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
Well damn Melo carried an even worse team to the national title for Syracuse. I bet that dude must be the ultimate winner and lead his teams to deep playoff runs.....

Absolutely not true. Hakim Warrick and that white lights out point guard. That team was far from trash

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Ya and Kemba had Shabazz Napier and Jeremy Lamb who are 2 NBA players on that team with him and they also had Alex Oriakhi who was a damn good college big. I agree Warrick was good and the guy youre thinking of is Gerry McNammara was a solid shooter. Im just saying Melo had less talent around him than Kemba did.


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Post#76 » by 3Diamantidis » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:18 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
3Diamantidis wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:wot

Kemba is Steph Curry level at C&S threes. Educate yourself.


You are being a homer.
Brogdon is shooting 40.4% on his rookie season.
Kemba's pct is 39%. That's not a huge difference..

Actually I'm not:

http://stats.nba.com/players/catch-shoot/#!?Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3_PCT&dir=1&CF=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3A*GE*2:GP*GE*10

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/kemba-walker-doesnt-care-how-close-youre-guarding-him/

Kemba was an elite three point shooter for much of this season, finished 7th in the league in made threes, and was literally one of the two or three best in the league in C&S situations. Disrespectful to act like a rookie who averaged one made three per game is the better shooter, especially given the far greater volume Kemba shot and the greater defensive attention Kemba receives. Is Brogdon a better shooter than Beal, Eric Gordon, and Harden?


First of all brogdon is 3 and D. The kind of gurad the bucks need. None of the guys you mentioned is good in D. Brogdon is.
And his 3pt% is just fine(if not great).
The poster to whom i replied to said that kemba would have been a great fit for the bucks. I don't agree.
Secondly, i voted kemba for the ASG :wink: but that doesn't mean i would have wanted him on the bucks.
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Post#77 » by Tricky_Kid » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:48 pm

No at all. They don't have good 3 pts shooters, offensive sets, good coach. 1 player except Lebron maybe won't cover all problems

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Post#78 » by yosemiteben » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:52 pm

3Diamantidis wrote:First of all brogdon is 3 and D. The kind of gurad the bucks need. None of the guys you mentioned is good in D. Brogdon is.
And his 3pt% is just fine(if not great).
The poster to whom i replied to said that kemba would have been a great fit for the bucks. I don't agree.
Secondly, i voted kemba for the ASG :wink: but that doesn't mean i would have wanted him on the bucks.

You said Brogdon is a better shooter than Kemba. Just take the L on that. None of the stuff you just said applies to that statement or makes it true or more reasonable.
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Post#79 » by skones » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:54 pm

3Diamantidis wrote:
First of all brogdon is 3 and D. The kind of gurad the bucks need. None of the guys you mentioned is good in D. Brogdon is.
And his 3pt% is just fine(if not great).
The poster to whom i replied to said that kemba would have been a great fit for the bucks. I don't agree.
Secondly, i voted kemba for the ASG :wink: but that doesn't mean i would have wanted him on the bucks.


Walker takes over 7 attempts a game. Brogdon isn't even on the same planet as a shooter.
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Post#80 » by 3Diamantidis » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:06 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
3Diamantidis wrote:First of all brogdon is 3 and D. The kind of gurad the bucks need. None of the guys you mentioned is good in D. Brogdon is.
And his 3pt% is just fine(if not great).
The poster to whom i replied to said that kemba would have been a great fit for the bucks. I don't agree.
Secondly, i voted kemba for the ASG :wink: but that doesn't mean i would have wanted him on the bucks.

You said Brogdon is a better shooter than Kemba. Just take the L on that. None of the stuff you just said applies to that statement or makes it true or more reasonable.



I don't take any L.
He shot 40% this season. That's a fact. Numbers don't lie. Also brogdon is a better defender like it or not.
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