Should NBA expand on replay ruling?

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Should NBA expand on replay ruling? 

Post#1 » by Wagonband » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:35 pm

I have to say i'm quite bothered by how the replays work in the NBA currently.

I like that they added video reviews for the last 2 minutes of the game, but i really don't understand why that same video review can't be used to change calls.

For example, in the Cle-Ind game there was a review whether the ball went out of bounds by Paul George or a Cavalier. The replay clearly showed George touched it last, but the only the TO happened was because he was hammered on the arm. If there is already the review of the replay, why shouldn't the refeeres be able to say "it would be CLE ball, but because it was a fould we will give PG 2 free throws". It would literally take a second more to make that decision.

I remember a simmilar thing a few years back in the LAC-GSW series, where Green fauled CP3, which cause CP3 to push the ball out of bounds. The refs first said LAC ball, but after review gave the ball to GSW despite the replay clearly showing the only reason why CP3 lost the ball was because of a Green faul.

They say that they don't want the games to last longer, but this would add a minute max to a game and make the last 2 minutes of play much more fair. I'm not saying stop to review if a foul was made, but if there's already a review going on, allow the refs to change the call.

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Re: Should NBA expand on replay ruling? 

Post#2 » by Hangtime84 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:38 pm

I think NBA coaches should be allowed to challenge calls similar to how the NFL does. It would make officials more accountable. Still have the outside replay center determine if the foul was legit or should be reversed.

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Re: Should NBA expand on replay ruling? 

Post#3 » by TheDavinciCHODE » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:42 pm

There' s just too much nuance and intangible factors that go into how a foul is a called.

Is this in line with how we're calling the game?
Did the other team get the same call on the other end?
Did this player intentionally do it and gain an advantage from it?
Does this player have the respect of the whistle?
Does this player constantly seek out fouls with his behavior?

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Being able to review fouls is a slope that is a bit to slippery at this point. I dont mind the challenge idea, but in moderation. On any given play, there could be something that could be called a foul. It'd be possible to have a foul called literally every time down the court.

Maybe adding the ability for this specific type of out of bounds play would be fine, but IDK.
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Re: Should NBA expand on replay ruling? 

Post#4 » by Patches Perry » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:42 pm

TheDavinciCHODE wrote:There' s just too much nuance and intangible factors that go into how a foul is a called.

Is this in line with how we're calling the game?
Did the other team get the same call on the other end?
Did this player intentionally do it and gain an advantage from it?
Does this player have the respect of the whistle?
Does this player constantly seek out fouls with his behavior?

ETC ETC

Being able to review fouls is a slope that is a bit to slippery at this point. I dont mind the challenge idea, but in moderation. On any given play, there could be something that could be called a foul. It'd be possible to have a foul called literally every time down the court.

Maybe adding the ability for this specific type of out of bounds play would be fine, but IDK.


I agree with OP but also with this. The only way replay can be consistent is if they isolate one particular kind of call and focus on solely that regardless of what affected that play, as with the "who touched the ball last" review. If Chris Paul pushes off on Draymond Green to get open, they inbound to Paul, and Green runs into Paul from behind while recovering, knocking it off Paul, then what is the precedent here? Ball went off Paul, but it was because Green fouled him, but Paul was open because Paul fouled Green. It opens up too much. At some point you have to chalk it up to spontaneity of the game and move on.
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Re: Should NBA expand on replay ruling? 

Post#5 » by jbk1234 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:50 pm

I'm fine with getting the call right in the last two minutes but it would have to be a clear missed foul like the one on George. I wouldn't want a situation where officials were making 50/50 calls on replay.
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Re: Should NBA expand on replay ruling? 

Post#6 » by Gary Cokeman » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:00 pm

It would slow the game down too much... FT's do that enough as is.
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Re: Should NBA expand on replay ruling? 

Post#7 » by The_Hater » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:04 pm

Even if charge block calls cold be reviewed, you would never get anything close to universal agreement on whether it's the right call or not.
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Re: Should NBA expand on replay ruling? 

Post#8 » by RamonSessions7 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:12 pm

They need to change something about those out of bounds replays with clear contact. It really should not take that long either. It takes fans watching on TV and the broadcast team about 20 seconds to see what happened in those situations.

As the replay setup is now, replay is actually making the calls on the floor worse when plays like the PG out of bounds play get overturned.
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Re: Should NBA expand on replay ruling? 

Post#9 » by OmegaAtrocity » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:33 pm

Honestly I'd be okay if they took replay out entirely. It takes way way too long, and they still get it wrong half the time.
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Re: Should NBA expand on replay ruling? 

Post#10 » by Shock Defeat » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:40 pm

Yes, if you are reviewing who the ball went out of bounds on, you HAVE to be able to call a foul if it is determined that that was what caused the ball to go off of a player. It doesn't make any sense, you could be hacked but if the ball goes out of bounds off of you, the other team gets the ball.
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Re: Should NBA expand on replay ruling? 

Post#11 » by 76ciology » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:06 pm

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Re: Should NBA expand on replay ruling? 

Post#12 » by dautjazz » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:18 pm

I love that the NBA has a room that costs millions for reviewing plays, and it takes as much as 5 minutes to determine some calls that take seconds for fans to determine. Seriously, wtf?
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