Disagree with the OP, but even if Lebron has the best help ever, so what? Is the gap between his help and the help of the MJ, Bird, Magic, Moses, Kareem, Kobe, Shaq, Curry/KD and whoever else big enough to somehow discredit him and not those guys? If his help scored 95/100 on some hypothetical scale and the next best help scored 90/100, does that somehow make him a worse player than he actually is? Unless OP thinks the gap between Wade/Kyrie/Love/Bosh and whichever set of teammates is second best is so big that Lebron alone stands out as having so much help when compared to his ATG contemporaries.
What is your point even OP? Hope it's not that Kobe is better because nope he isn't.
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CablexDeadpool wrote:DoItALL9 wrote:Why didn't they win it all that year?
Cause Lebron wasn't Lebron in the Finals and Dirk was God.
What was wrong with LeBron?
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mglee wrote:Lebron has never played with another MVP.
Most recently:
Shaq/Kobe
Curry/Durant
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LeBron played with Shaq. It was years after his MVP season though
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nolang1 wrote:CablexDeadpool wrote:Bruh Man wrote:MJ? He's never played with someone as good as Wade.
Wade only played at a superstar level for one year with Lebron, the 2010-2011.
After that, Wade was a hindrance.
Yep, LeBron never played with a version of Wade who was better than Pippen in the Bulls' title years. Bosh scoring 0 in game 7 against the Spurs in '13 is overlooked as well.
Wade the first year together was very good. Check his finals stats.
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homecourtloss wrote:TheKingOfVa360 wrote:Dupp wrote:
The most stacked team in nba history out west might be one small reason.
You must be under 18 years old if you think the current Warriors are the most stacked team in NBA history. Warriors and Cavs are on the same level. Cavs have one of the most stacked benches in NBA history.
Not even close to being close to being close. You think the Warriors would swap Curry and Dray for Irving and Love?
Yes easily as a Lebron fan it is hard to admit
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JordansBulls wrote:homecourtloss wrote:TheKingOfVa360 wrote:
You must be under 18 years old if you think the current Warriors are the most stacked team in NBA history. Warriors and Cavs are on the same level. Cavs have one of the most stacked benches in NBA history.
Not even close to being close to being close. You think the Warriors would swap Curry and Dray for Irving and Love?
Yes easily as a Lebron fan it is hard to admit
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lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.
lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…