simmbiid wrote: NormanDale wrote:
Do you want salt with those chips on your shoulders?
48 hours ago, Boston fans were calling him a beast and the consensus number 1 pick. Now, he has a losing mentality, low motor, bust potential, etc.
In all honesty, it was the right decision for both teams. Boston didn't want another guard and felt they could get what they wanted at a lower pick and walk away with another asset, and the sixers wanted him badly due to his fit on the team. A win-win for both. Both GMs were happy, I figure.
I agree with your first point. Either Fultz is a stud or he's not, but he can't be a stud when he's going to Boston and mediocre when he's going to Philly.You're wrong about the second point,
because (1) I doubt "fit" is the reason for the trade, and if it is, it's a stupid reason. You don't trade the #1 pick for fit reasons, you take the best player. None of the Celtics guards are worth passing on a future star, if that's what fultz is.
No, Ainge has convinced himself that Fultz is not the best player in the draft, and has his heart set on Jackson or Tatum. He probably considered shocking everyone by picking his real favorite at 1, but then realized he could get him anyway and add a future asset.
This move makes sense if you believe that the guy who wanted to trade 4 first round picks for Justice Winslow knows more about who will be the best player in this draft than everyone else combined.
Do you realise how cocky you sound when you say somebody is wrong when they are just expressing an opinion? Lighten up.
Of course the sixers want Fultz because of fit. It just so happens that he is extremely gifted, which is why they were willing to trade up. The Celtics have a great PG already and a talented SG (Bradley). Their SFs are meh, so he could be seen as an upgrade over the ones they have. A combination of talent and need. That makes sense to avoid a log jam at certain positions and prevent your best players getting peeved when they lose minutes (aka Sixers center logjam).
I'm plenty "light," just commenting on a basketball forum. I didn't mean to insult you. I even agreed with your first point.
From the Celtics perspective, the fact remains that trading the #1 pick for "fit" reasons would be a bad move, particularly if you don't already have a transcendent player. You can't credibly justify this trade based on that reasoning, from the Celtics standpoint. For the Sixers, this move is a no-brainer.
Again, the only credible reasoning I could see from the Celtics standpoint is either (a) this is a precursor to something else, or (b) Ainge doesn't like Fultz nearly as much as everyone else, or likes Jackson/Tatum more.
I know the buzz is all around (a), but I find (b) more likely.
All over the Celtics board there are people saying things like, "We have to understand that Ainge's board looks nothing like everyone else's board." Less frequently discussed is whether that's actually a good thing. I don't think it is, in this case.
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