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Re: Worst possible 2016/2017 lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:45 pm
by Feel_the_Heat15
Jadoogar wrote:Going to try to build an actual lineup (i.e. no Mozgov at SF)
Matthew Dellavedova (7 pts, 4 ast)
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson (9 pts, 6 reb)
Demarre Carroll (9 pts, 4 reb)
Amir Johnson (6 pts, 4 reb)
Timofey Mozgov (7pts, 5 reb)
Horrible fits together, no off the dribble creator, no outside shooting.
Noteable exceptions: Noah (only played 46 games), Derrick Rose, Jordan Clarkson (not enough games started), Reggie Jackson, TJ McConnell, Aaron Aflalo (only 45 games started), Ben Mclemore (only 26 gs)
Decent defensively.
Re: Worst possible 2016/2017 lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:05 pm
by Prez
Matthew Dellavedova
Buddy Hield
Bojan Bogdanovic
Domantas Sabonis
Timofey Mozgov
Re: Worst possible 2016/2017 lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:59 pm
by dacrusha
Matthew Dellavedova
Solomon Hill
Demarre Carroll
Domantas Sabonis
Timofey Mozgov
4 starters that are sub-.400 shooters.
Re: Worst possible 2016/2017 lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:49 pm
by Patsfan1081
Tinseltown wrote:Right now the rest of the league is going small so I'm going to try and counter that by loading up on as many slow centers as possible. I drew a lot of inspiration for this plan from Sam Hinkie and I think I've managed to concoct a lineup that would lose to the Warriors by 100.
Noah
Okafaor
Mozgoz
Bojan Bogdanovic
Jaylen Brown (PG)
Brown isn't a point guard, only started 20 games last season, and was actually really good in a starting role. The kid shot 46/40 with a 57ts% and was a +2.....Ingram on the other hand started 40 games, shot 42/29 with a 48ts% and was a -11. So I'd suggest switching out Brown with Ingram as one was much better than the other.
Re: Worst possible 2016/2017 lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:59 pm
by Mister Ze
Demarre Carrol got labeled as a 3 + D player and ironically can't shoot 3's or play good defense.
So the question is why on earth he started 72 games when the Raptors had Ross and Norman...
Re: Worst possible 2016/2017 lineup
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:00 pm
by Johnny Bball
WTF is going on in here.
CJ Watson
Randy Foye
Stanley Johson
Derrick Williams
Cole Aldrich
Should have made this poll no rookies. So I did.
Re: Worst possible 2016/2017 lineup
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:09 pm
by The_Hater
Mudiay
Kilpatrick
S Hill
Sabonis
Len
6th man Hollis-Jefferson
I don't get the people saying Dellevadova. He's a decent player.
Re: Worst possible 2016/2017 lineup
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:17 pm
by Jadoogar
Master Ze wrote:Demarre Carrol got labeled as a 3 + D player and ironically can't shoot 3's or play good defense.
So the question is why on earth he started 72 games when the Raptors had Ross and Norman...
Because he makes $15M/year. that's literally te only reason.
Re: Worst possible 2016/2017 lineup
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:26 pm
by DarkXaero
The_Hater wrote:Mudiay
Kilpatrick
S Hill
Sabonis
Len
6th man Hollis-Jefferson
I don't get the people saying Dellevadova. He's a decent player.
RHJ is a decent young player too, elite defensively, and someone who only has two seasons in the NBA.
Re: Worst possible 2016/2017 lineup
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:27 pm
by DarkXaero
Jadoogar wrote:Going to try to build an actual lineup (i.e. no Mozgov at SF)
Matthew Dellavedova (7 pts, 4 ast)
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson (9 pts, 6 reb)
Demarre Carroll (9 pts, 4 reb)
Amir Johnson (6 pts, 4 reb)
Timofey Mozgov (7pts, 5 reb)
Horrible fits together, no off the dribble creator, no outside shooting.
Noteable exceptions: Noah (only played 46 games), Derrick Rose, Jordan Clarkson (not enough games started), Reggie Jackson, TJ McConnell, Aaron Aflalo (only 45 games started), Ben Mclemore (only 26 gs)
That would be a horrific team on offense but I would expect them to be elite defensively and rebounding/hustle wise.
Re: Worst possible 2016/2017 lineup
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:33 pm
by phanman
PG: TJ McConnell - 6.9pts, 6.6ast, 3.1reb, 1.7stl on 46%FG - 20%3pt - 50.4%TS
SG: Rodney McGruder - 6.4pts, 3.3reb, 1.6ast on 41%FG - 33%3pt - 50.6%TS
SF: Rondae Hollis-Jeffereson - 8.7pts, 5.8reb, 2ast, 1.1stl on 43%FG - 22%3pt, 51.7%TS
PF: Demarre Carroll - 8.9pts, 3.8reb, 1ast, 1.1stl on 40%FG - 34%3pt - 53%TS
C: Mozgov - 7.4pts, 4.9reb, 0.8ast on 51%FG and 55.3%TS
Re: Worst possible 2016/2017 lineup
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:38 pm
by The_Hater
DarkXaero wrote:The_Hater wrote:Mudiay
Kilpatrick
S Hill
Sabonis
Len
6th man Hollis-Jefferson
I don't get the people saying Dellevadova. He's a decent player.
RHJ is a decent young player too, elite defensively, and someone who only has two seasons in the NBA.
He should get better but he was really bad offensively last year. I just felt the Nets deserved 2 players on my list for finishing dead last overall.
Re: Worst possible 2016/2017 lineup
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:40 pm
by The_Hater
DarkXaero wrote:Jadoogar wrote:Going to try to build an actual lineup (i.e. no Mozgov at SF)
Matthew Dellavedova (7 pts, 4 ast)
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson (9 pts, 6 reb)
Demarre Carroll (9 pts, 4 reb)
Amir Johnson (6 pts, 4 reb)
Timofey Mozgov (7pts, 5 reb)
Horrible fits together, no off the dribble creator, no outside shooting.
Noteable exceptions: Noah (only played 46 games), Derrick Rose, Jordan Clarkson (not enough games started), Reggie Jackson, TJ McConnell, Aaron Aflalo (only 45 games started), Ben Mclemore (only 26 gs)
That would be a horrific team on offense but I would expect them to be elite defensively and rebounding/hustle wise.
Ya. He literally picked 5 good defensive players to his lineup.
I personally think Sabonis was the worst rotation player in the league last season. Horrible in just about every aspect of the game but overlooked because he was a rookie. He should be the obvious choice at PF.
Re: Worst possible 2016/2017 lineup
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:20 pm
by Jadoogar
DarkXaero wrote:Jadoogar wrote:Going to try to build an actual lineup (i.e. no Mozgov at SF)
Matthew Dellavedova (7 pts, 4 ast)
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson (9 pts, 6 reb)
Demarre Carroll (9 pts, 4 reb)
Amir Johnson (6 pts, 4 reb)
Timofey Mozgov (7pts, 5 reb)
Horrible fits together, no off the dribble creator, no outside shooting.
Noteable exceptions: Noah (only played 46 games), Derrick Rose, Jordan Clarkson (not enough games started), Reggie Jackson, TJ McConnell, Aaron Aflalo (only 45 games started), Ben Mclemore (only 26 gs)
That would be a horrific team on offense but I would expect them to be elite defensively and rebounding/hustle wise.
"elite" is strong. Carroll is old and can barely run. Amir is also crazy old and injured most of the time. Mozgov is too slow for the modern game. Delly and RHJ are decent players but not when they are the starting backcourt.
Re: RE: Re: Worst possible 2016/2017 lineup
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:36 pm
by DarkXaero
Jadoogar wrote:DarkXaero wrote:Jadoogar wrote:Going to try to build an actual lineup (i.e. no Mozgov at SF)
Matthew Dellavedova (7 pts, 4 ast)
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson (9 pts, 6 reb)
Demarre Carroll (9 pts, 4 reb)
Amir Johnson (6 pts, 4 reb)
Timofey Mozgov (7pts, 5 reb)
Horrible fits together, no off the dribble creator, no outside shooting.
Noteable exceptions: Noah (only played 46 games), Derrick Rose, Jordan Clarkson (not enough games started), Reggie Jackson, TJ McConnell, Aaron Aflalo (only 45 games started), Ben Mclemore (only 26 gs)
That would be a horrific team on offense but I would expect them to be elite defensively and rebounding/hustle wise.
"elite" is strong. Carroll is old and can barely run. Amir is also crazy old and injured most of the time. Mozgov is too slow for the modern game. Delly and RHJ are decent players but not when they are the starting backcourt.
They are all plus defenders.