Kobe Play-Off Player of the Decade

Mamba Venom · Post #1 » by **Mamba Venom** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 8:34 am

Here is the case for Kobe to be the play-off player of the decade

Kobe is first is points (4,053),
first in post season wins (96)
first in minutes (6,221)
third in games played (147)
sixth in rebounds (802)
first in Finals appearances (6)
tied for first for championships (4)
first in steals, 3rd in assists
first in shots to win or tie game at the buzzer (5)
tied for third for finals MVPS

Pretty impressive #s

BROWN · Post #2 » by **BROWN** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 8:41 am

bl2k · Post #3 » by **bl2k** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 8:43 am

this the TNT thing?

Tim_Hardawayy · Post #4 » by **Tim_Hardawayy** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 9:20 am

I'd probably give it to Duncan, but Kobe's a close second.

Problem is Duncan has 2 Finals MVP's to Kobe's 1, add in the fact that Timmy's never lost a Finals, and I think you have to go with him.

Post #5 » by **MHZ** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 10:18 am

Give me Duncan.

Number34 · Post #6 » by **Number34** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 10:47 am

duncan

MassDaGod · Post #7 » by **MassDaGod** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 10:54 am

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:
Problem is Duncan has 2 Finals MVP's to Kobe's 1, add in the fact that Timmy's never lost a Finals

Getting to the Finals better than NOT getting to the Finals, No?

Kobe got there 6 times this decade... Duncan only 3.

Kobes team eliminated Duncan team from the playoffs this Decade 3 times, to 1 (WHILE being the best player in those Series at that.)

I'd say Kobe over Duncan. a finals MVP doesnt mean that much to me.... Especially in the Early 00's when the BEST teams were in the west (Kings, Spurs, Blazers) and Kobe used to Run through those teams. The NBA Finals were played in the Conference Finals.

EHL · Post #8 » by **EHL** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 11:49 am

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:I'd probably give it to Duncan, but Kobe's a close second.

Problem is Duncan has 2 Finals MVP's to Kobe's 1, add in the fact that Timmy's never lost a Finals, and I think you have to go with him.

Well yeah, but it's worse to lose in a round earlier than the Finals, and Duncan lost 7 times before the Finals this decade. Bryant lost 4 times before the Finals, 6 times overall with 4 titles to Duncan's 3 (extend it out a year and it's 4 titles for TD). Of course, neither had the same teammates so the comparison is a little difficult to make.

Either way, it's pretty close. Which was predictable from day one.

Boognish · Post #9 » by **Boognish** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 12:34 pm

How is it not Shaq? Three Finals MVPs, five Finals appearances, four rings. At least mention him.

DumbyTheWizard · Post #10 » by **DumbyTheWizard** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 1:03 pm

Of course its between Kobe, Shaq and Duncan. All the top decade stuff should split between them. I would go with Kobe, then Duncan and then Shaq, because you cant penalize him for not making the playoff 2 years because thats RS....

jirojan · Post #11 » by **jirojan** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 1:19 pm

if the lakers make a deep playoff run (at least wfc, but probably finals) kobe should be #1

adjacent2bench · Post #12 » by **adjacent2bench** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 2:53 pm

Boognish wrote:How is it not Shaq? Three Finals MVPs, five Finals appearances, four rings. At least mention him.

Post #13 » by **5DOM** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 2:56 pm

I think after this season, it will be Kobe.

JordansBulls · Post #14 » by **JordansBulls** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 3:10 pm

Shaq, Duncan and Kobe are top 3 and all 3 have a legitimate case. Each have the same amount of titles, however the dominance level is different for each, but also the consistentcy level is different over the years for each as well.

YLSKillaCam · Post #15 » by **YLSKillaCam** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 3:34 pm

JordansBulls wrote:Shaq, Duncan and Kobe are top 3 and all 3 have a legitimate case. Each have the same amount of titles, however the dominance level is different for each, but also the consistentcy level is different over the years for each as well.

Consistent: Kobe

Dominant: Shaquille

Overall: Kobe

But if you look at it from who dominated year after year in the playoffs, Kobe is the answer. Shaquille had seasons where he was more dominant than Kobe in the playoffs, but after 2000 it wasn't a huge gap and after 2004, Kobe was just flat out better than Shaquille in the Playoffs every single year.

MasterRyu · Post #16 » by **MasterRyu** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 3:59 pm

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:I'd probably give it to Duncan, but Kobe's a close second.

Problem is Duncan has 2 Finals MVP's to Kobe's 1, add in the fact that Timmy's never lost a Finals, and I think you have to go with him.

Come on, this is a really absurd and tired argument. You can say the same for D-Wade or for Paul Pierce.

The problem is Duncan's been declining. Kobe really hasn't. The San Antonio has not been in the spotlight for sometime, and the Lakers are the IT team right now.

But really in my mind, it's a tie between Duncan and Kobe. But if Kobe wins another ring in June, he takes the spot.

TheKingOfVa360 · Post #17 » by **TheKingOfVa360** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 4:24 pm

It has to be Shaq then Duncan. Maybe then Iverson. Kobe doesn't have many rememberable playoff games like those 3 have. Shaq has a few 40-20 games. Duncan flirted with a quad in the finals. Iverson has exploded for 50 in the playoffs plus his game 1 vs the Lakers. Next up would be KG and Kobe.

Wile E. Coyote · Post #18 » by **Wile E. Coyote** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 4:26 pm

TheKingOfVa360 wrote:Maybe then Iverson.

No one will take your post seriously when you slip this in.

fishfuego. · Post #19 » by **fishfuego.** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 4:39 pm

Duncan .. he did it as the top dog each and every single time, then Shaq

Free Rider · Post #20 » by **Free Rider** » Sun Dec 6, 2009 4:52 pm

TheKingOfVa360 wrote: Maybe then Iverson.

Iverson really? It's statements like this that make Iverson so overrated. Guy never accomplished anything in the playoffs yet he's ahead of guys like Kobe, Wade and KG who actually led their teams to championships.