Official 2010 All-Star Game Thread

ManualRam · Post #2241 » by **ManualRam** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:35 pm

Ito wrote:efficient yes but it wasnt quiet at all. He had the ball in his hands like the whole first half, how you think he put up all those assists? He wasnt chucking but he did dominate the ball. Lebron didnt dominate the ball but he was chucking, get it? Lebron went nut everytime he got the ball but Wade still had the ball way more than him.

Bosh was the MVP IMO.

he got those assists efficiently. i didnt see him pounding the rock into the ground just waiting for an assist opportunity to open up to finally give up the ball. he didnt probe, get cut off and back it out, monopolizing the ball. he got his within the flow of the game and made his plays quickly and efficiently.
he just played his game and the stats piled up naturally. he didnt force anything. lebron did and ended up chucking the west back into the game.

ManualRam · Post #2242 » by **ManualRam** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:37 pm

Ito wrote:and the reason Lebron was playing like that is because he was truly the best player on the court, and he knows this. Its hard not to play like that when you know you are the best.

its hard not to play like that when you're trying hard to win a meaningless award.

ManualRam · Post #2243 » by **ManualRam** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:38 pm

Heat3 wrote:

play of the game.

Ito · Post #2244 » by **Ito** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:38 pm

the West came back when he was on the bench, he got in the game and the East went ahead again. Thats why lebron had +14 and Wade had -2... some of ya just like to make things up to prove ya point.

ManualRam · Post #2245 » by **ManualRam** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:41 pm

Ito wrote:the West came back when he was on the bench, he got in the game and the East went ahead again. Thats why lebron had +14 and Wade had -2... some of ya just like to make things up to prove ya point.

so it was just my imagination that the east was up 7+ late in the 4th then LBJ started holding the ball and chucking, only to see the lead shrink to nil?
ok.

Heat3 · Post #2246 » by **Heat3** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:49 pm

Lebron played fine until the very end when got selfish. There was a play when he was on a fast break with Wade on a 2 on 1. He could have easily passed it up to Wade who was uncovered but he kept it. A few other times he was the only one to touch the ball for the entire possession. Seriously it's just an all star game award. Does anyone remember who won it last three years without looking it up? I don't. Hell if he would have made those shots while he was hogging the ball he might have won the damn award. Don't expect your boy to be rewarded when he hogs the rock and and he ends up just bricking it.

Post #2247 » by **MagicMadness** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:21 pm

LeBron did go into chuck mode, but I'd rather see someone like him actually trying to make something happen than someone like Tim Duncan totally going through the motions and appearing uninterested.

As for Wade, that was one of the finest all-around MVP performances I've seen in awhile. Well deserved.

da.vid · Post #2248 » by **da.vid** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:21 pm

if LeBron didn't play, the East would've lost by 14
if Wade didn't play, the East would've won by 4

Post #2249 » by **MagicMadness** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:24 pm

Can somebody logically explain the meaning of the +/- statistic?

I always see it used in discussions, but it never seems to truly represent a player's performance.

I mean, I'll see Magic games where Dwight will go for 20/20 and be like -3, while someone like Anthony Johnson will play for 5 minutes and be +7...

Wiscfan92 · Post #2250 » by **Wiscfan92** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:32 pm

Didn't like that the game ended on free-throws. Overall, poor All-star weekend. Wasn't impressed with any of the events.

Father Time · Post #2251 » by **Father Time** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:32 pm

MagicMadness wrote:Can somebody logically explain the meaning of the +/- statistic?

I always see it used in discussions, but it never seems to truly represent a player's performance.

I mean, I'll see Magic games where Dwight will go for 20/20 and be like -3, while someone like Anthony Johnson will play for 5 minutes and be +7...

Isn't a whole lot of use for +/- when looking at individual games. I think it's most useful when looking at a large number of games.

Greatness · Post #2252 » by **Greatness** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:42 pm

Heat3 wrote:

Vertical Limit · Post #2253 » by **Vertical Limit** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:03 pm

Some of you guys are ridiculous. Wade scored 28 points and 11 assists and made some key defensive stops, especially at the last seconds, even the free throws to win the game. Lebron benefited from Wade's assists as well. You take away Wade's complete game and the West would have blown out the East. Who else would have put up those stats? Was LeBron going to put up over 50 and 20 assists? Yeah I don't think so.

Lionel Messi · Post #2254 » by **Lionel Messi** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:15 pm

lalball81 wrote:
MagicMadness wrote:Can somebody logically explain the meaning of the +/- statistic?

I always see it used in discussions, but it never seems to truly represent a player's performance.

I mean, I'll see Magic games where Dwight will go for 20/20 and be like -3, while someone like Anthony Johnson will play for 5 minutes and be +7...

Isn't a whole lot of use for +/- when looking at individual games. I think it's most useful when looking at a large number of games.

No, it's basically useless no matter what. It shows how many points were gained/lost while that player was on the court. Therefore, it also relies on their teammates' performances. Seeing as how there's no way to properly judge that player's impact and relative to how the rest of his team is playing, this stat becomes the biggest joke in the history of NBA statistics.

Anyhow, Wade definitely deserved MVP, but LeBron was a huge ballhog. I think he took a contested jumper every time in the last 3/4 minutes of the game and missed them all.
Bosh was probably second in MVP because the east won. Melo had a big game and i loved that Nash was forcing Dirk to shoot and get points by getting him so many open looks

Nash is awesome.

xxRoyalexx · Post #2255 » by **xxRoyalexx** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:54 pm

A very exciting game, leagues better than last year's ASG. Was fairly competitive while maintaining the flashiness that fans have come to enjoy, and I'm sure that Stern must be happy as hell right now to have had such a successful All Star Game in front of 108,713 people.

SportsWorld · Post #2256 » by **SportsWorld** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:00 pm

http://sportsmediawatch.blogspot.com/20 ... a-all.html

A record crowd at Cowboys Stadium did not translate into extra television viewers for the 2010 NBA All-Star Game.

Sunday's NBA All-Star Game drew a 3.8 U.S. rating and 6.9 million viewers on TNT, according to Nielsen fast-national ratings, down 16% in ratings and 9% in viewership from last year (4.5, 7.6 mil), but flat in ratings and up 10% in viewership from 2008 (3.8, 6.3 mil).

Sunday's game is tied with the aforementioned 2008 game as the lowest rated NBA All-Star Game ever. Additionally, the 6.9 million viewers is the third-lowest for the NBA All-Star Game since at least '90, ahead of the 2008 and 2007 games.

The All-Star Game aired directly opposite the Winter Olympics on NBC, which drew a 14.3 rating and 26.4 million viewers on Sunday night. The 2006 All-Star Game, which also aired opposite the Winter Olympics, drew a 4.3 U.S. rating and 7.1 million viewers.

xxRoyalexx · Post #2257 » by **xxRoyalexx** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:44 pm

Didn't expect much considering they had to compete with the Winter Games, which is televised on a bigger channel.

Post #2258 » by **rsavaj** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:03 pm

SportsWorld wrote:

USHAAAAAAAAAA!

retrospect24 · Post #2259 » by **retrospect24** » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:36 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:
lalball81 wrote:
MagicMadness wrote:Can somebody logically explain the meaning of the +/- statistic?

I always see it used in discussions, but it never seems to truly represent a player's performance.

I mean, I'll see Magic games where Dwight will go for 20/20 and be like -3, while someone like Anthony Johnson will play for 5 minutes and be +7...

Isn't a whole lot of use for +/- when looking at individual games. I think it's most useful when looking at a large number of games.

No, it's basically useless no matter what. It shows how many points were gained/lost while that player was on the court. Therefore, it also relies on their teammates' performances. Seeing as how there's no way to properly judge that player's impact and relative to how the rest of his team is playing, this stat becomes the biggest joke in the history of NBA statistics.

Anyhow, Wade definitely deserved MVP, but LeBron was a huge ballhog. I think he took a contested jumper every time in the last 3/4 minutes of the game and missed them all.
Bosh was probably second in MVP because the east won. Melo had a big game and i loved that Nash was forcing Dirk to shoot and get points by getting him so many open looks
Nash is awesome.

Its best when evaluating lineups, not players, over a large number of games.

Post #2260 » by **Flash3** » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:25 am

CHIMOCHI wrote:
RoleModel wrote:I kinda thought Bosh would get it when he hit the game winning free throws. I bet if he would have made a jumper or finished the layup it would have been different.

No wade still would of won it. lol at bosh getting mvp

What's so funny? It's safe to say that Bosh or Wade were better candidates to win the award over LBJ, because it was obvious that LBJ was forcing a lot of his shots towards the end.